Re: [Tracker] Roadmap to 0.7

[Pavel Rojtberg <lists rojtberg net>]

The problem with developing a new UI is that it takes time and the 
upstream version freeze is already close for Ubuntu 9.10.

From an application developer POV I would rather try to push tracker 
0.7 into Ubuntu than developing a new UI.
Since then I can start using the full potential of tracker.

Right now I am using the SqlQuery method with really hacky queries since 
what I really need is the SparQL interface...

Regards

Pavel


On 10.07.2009 20:12, Michael Lissner wrote:
> I'm not nearly as involved as all you are in this project, but I linger
> around on the list to cast opinions about when something catches my eye,
> as this has.
>
> I can say that as a (somewhat lay) user of Tracker, the UI is about as
> bad as Martyn says - it works, but barely. My impression was that the
> 0.7 release was supposed to be something big; something for the
> community to be excited about. I can understand the desire to push it
> out the door, but if the idea is to release a major version number, and
> for it to be a big deal, doing so lacking a UI to leverage it seems like
> folly to me.
>
> I agree that we shouldn't try to push the community too much (as Phillip
> says, I think), and that going with the flow is a good thing, but I
> really hope we don't release such a poor tracker UI when the
> architecture has been made so wonderously powerful underneath.
>
> My 2 cents...
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> Jamie McCracken wrote on 07/10/2009 04:11 AM:
> > I started looking at fixing the UIs yesterday so hopefully should have
> > them fixed this weekend or early nest week-I might need to bug some of
> > you for improved sparql suport
> >
> > Please dont release til we have them!
> >
> > There also a number of things missing
> >
> > Metadata rank weights-should be in ontology but they are not
> >
> > I wrote the fts rank funtion but it needs to be use the correct metadata
> > weight and be exposed by spqarql so I can order results by rank
> >
> > the rank function simply sums (weight * number of occurences) as fts
> > stores the positions and hence we known number of occurrences in the
> > index
> >
> > for search tool I also need FTS snippets function to  be exposed by
> > sparql (its in fts and I modded it to be efficient)
> >
> > The above is needed by search tool so I cant finish that off until that
> > is done. No doubt there will be other issues as I fix the Uis that
> > require mods to sparql
> >
> > I also think we need the Events (onto, storage and possibly dbus) to be
> > added to that list. I can add it to the file indexer to store file
> > histories during indexing once its in our onto.
> >
> > I would like to eliminate the Zeitgeist daemon as what they want to do
> > is most inefficient - get relevant data from tracker to a python
> > middleware process and forward it on to clients. IOW their daemon acts
> > like a wrapper around tracker and is therefore redundant not to mention
> > bad design!!! They should use a c lib if they want to wrap tracker not a
> > python daemon!
> >
> > Also we should get tracker into Gnome within 6 months so clients can go
> > straight to tracker for metadata, tags, events etc
> >
> > jamie
> >
> > On Fri, 2009-07-10 at 11:00 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > This year there has been a lot of talk around tracker which is really
> > > good to see and also some applications like zeitgeist are interested in
> > > using it too.
> > >
> > > Through the week, I have been thinking about what is left to do before
> > > we can start releasing the 0.7 unstable versions.
> > >
> > > I started a wiki page with the details and have started working on some
> > > of these already. If anyone has anything to add, please do so.
> > >
> > >     http://live.gnome.org/Tracker/Roadmap
> > >
> > > After speaking to the rest of the team (we estimate) we could release
> > > within a month or so.
> > >
> > > This largely depends on the UI too. Right now we are considering
> > > releasing the unstable versions without any UIs and to work on those
> > > during the 0.7 releases. Jamie has elected to get started on those in
> > > the next few weeks.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Regards,
> > > Martyn
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