Re: [Rhythmbox-devel] Re: UI Improvements

On Mon, 2006-02-13 at 12:21 -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> >> What about just restricting this to artists for the moment?  That's
> >> what most people care about, I think, and there's fewer problem
> >> artists.  More than likely you would use search or type-ahead on
> >> artist anyway.
> Agreed.  But even there, using language is not reallya good idea, since
> several artists sing in several languages.  And to give a "language info"
> for each artist is just as much work as to give a "sort-tag" anyway.

I agree here. Adding support for language-tags and sort-tags is
basically the same amount of work, with sort-tags having several

* users can sort things however they want.
* we don't have to wait for translators or other people to give us a
list of words to ignore for every language.
* it is obvious how it affects sorting, whereas with language tags it is
hidden from the user via an obsfucated "language" setting.

> > The iPod also doesn't change the name of the artist. 'The Beatles' still
> > reads as 'The Beatles' and not 'Beatles, The'.  I think we should keep this
> > behavior.
> Agreed.  To me, it'd actually be more important to be able to place together
> different minor variants of some artists.  E.g. "Ben Harper" and "Ben Harper
> and the Innocent Criminals" or "BÃla Fleck", "Bela Fleck", and "BÃla Fleck
> and The Fleckstones".  I might want to keep the distinction (i.e. not use
> tag-editing to force all tags to be identical), either because I only have
> read-access to the files, or because the variants can be important as an
> indication of the style of music, but I'd like to be able to put them
> together in the browser.

Using sort-tags would also help here.

One issue that I have just though of: what happens if you have identical
artist tags, with different sort-tags? e.g. I have two songs by "The
Living End", one with the sort tag "Living End, the" and one with the
sort tags "The Living End".

The easiest thing to do would be to use the sort tag from the first
track we see, however that means you'll need to ensure /all/ of your
tracks have sort tags to work correctly.


James "Doc" Livingston
"Never offend people with style when you can offend them with
substance." --Sam Brown

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