Re: [Rhythmbox-devel] rhythmbox: gstreamer vs xine

[Jorn Baayen <jorn nl linux org>]

Yes yes yes, you've said this plenty of times :)

But really, it is very important to get the UI right. The old rb UI and
the one before that had tons of problems, and I'm not going to explain
them once again. Fixing bugs on a bad UI is a waste of time, since you
end up investing a lot of time into soething taht will soon be obsolete
anyway. Third, a horrible example of bad UI getting out of hand and the
problems arising to get it fixed is galeon. Marco even resigned, I do
not want that. Lastly, this is not a company that needs to get something
out the next day.

And the rewrites did bring good things. After going through a lot of
redesigns of the library code, spending a lot of time of it, it finally
is solid and fast. The new audio backend works like a charm as well. I
hope we will reach a good UI soon too.

Cheers

On Mon, 2003-01-13 at 03:23, Luis Villa wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-01-12 at 21:19, Colin Walters wrote:
> > On Sun, 2003-01-12 at 16:03, Jorn Baayen wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > I'm mailing to let you know I have been moving CVS Rhythmbox
> > > (monkey-media) to use xine instead of GStreamer.
> > 
> > I'd just like to say that if I had a vote, it would be to keep using
> > GStreamer.
> 
> _If_ I had a vote, it would be to settle down, and try to fix bugs in
> one semi-stable version of the code, before changing interfaces (again),
> changing models (again), and changing backends (for the first time.) It
> seems that without much more work to stabilize things it's very hard to
> identify where bugs are and what are design flaws and not just bugs. To
> put it another way, I hope everyone realizes at some point that settling
> down and _finishing_ one version will be a huge step towards learning a
> lot and making the next version much better, instead of just skipping on
> towards the next version and not learning the hard lessons from the
> first time around. 
> 
> Then again, I have to stress that I _don't_ have a vote- like every
> project, this should belong to the developers, and they should do
> (first) what's fun for them. But I've gone back to xmms, and it's not
> because of gstreamer. :/
> 
> Luis
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