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Re: [orca-list] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

Hi,

Thanks for all this. Here is my situation now:
1. Created an account
2. Enabled the watch for the Accessibility category (then the tracking mode, more complete): 
https://discourse.gnome.org/c/community/accessibility/340

Result:
- I did not received mails from Samuel
- when I wrote to accessibility discourse gnome org, no feedback, except if the mail is html, in which case the server says I am not trust. 

So the result just does not work for me so far. My doubts:
- not completely sure the activation of tracking works, I am not able to check it with orca 
- the mail sending does not seem to work

Regards

Le 20/10/2022 à 15:45, Andrea Veri a écrit :

Peter,
Thank you for the quick recap, really appreciate it, I went ahead and created the Accessibility sub-category for you under Community. I also enabled the mail interface against accessibility discourse gnome org <mailto:accessibility discourse gnome org>. At the end of October I'll switch orca-list to point to accessibility discourse gnome org <mailto:accessibility discourse gnome org> and your workflow will remain the same, you will just have to update filters on your mail client. 

Let me know if that'd do it for you, thanks!
On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 3:02 PM Peter Vágner <pvagner pvagner tk <mailto:pvagner pvagner tk>> wrote: 

    __
    Hello Andrea,

    I am also sending copy of this message to orca list. And I see it as
    a recap of what has been discussed so far.

    Discourse is very accessible platform when it comes to using it with
    a screen reader running. Majority of orca list members are visualy
    disabled peope who might be able to make some good use of it as a
    traditional email list replacement.
    However we had a discussion on this about a month ago at
    https://mail.gnome.org/archives/orca-list/2022-September/msg00020.html 
<https://mail.gnome.org/archives/orca-list/2022-September/msg00020.html> and here are notable key points we 
are seeing when trying to use the discourse as an email list replacement.

    * There are  instructions for those who like to use discourse as an
    email lists:
    https://discourse.gnome.org/t/interacting-with-discourse-via-email/46/2 
<https://discourse.gnome.org/t/interacting-with-discourse-via-email/46/2>
    * It even allows creating new topics through email within selected
    categories.
    * Here is a discussion about the mailing list mode too:
    https://meta.discourse.org/t/what-is-mailing-list-mode/46008/8
    <https://meta.discourse.org/t/what-is-mailing-list-mode/46008/8>
    * You can configure it in your preferences. For example I've
    registered to the gnome discourse with the username pvagner and here
    is link to my email preferences:
    https://discourse.gnome.org/u/pvagner/preferences/emails
    <https://discourse.gnome.org/u/pvagner/preferences/emails> . Of
    course yours will be different. If this is turned on reportedly all
    the discourse instance messages are relayed to your mailbox as a
    traditional email list.
    * Also there is a feature which will send out summaries of popular
    topics if you are not active on the web interface of discourse. This
    can be turned off within the email settings of your discourse
    account too.
    * Independent of this mailing list mode, there is also ability to
    track or watch topics or watch first post of a topic.
    * There is ability to watch tags or categories. Here is a discussion
    about these discourse features:
    https://meta.discourse.org/t/actual-difference-between-tracked-and-watching-first-post/61036 
<https://meta.discourse.org/t/actual-difference-between-tracked-and-watching-first-post/61036>
    * Just a note on tracking vs watching. Tracking is web UI only and
    watching includes email notifications. Watching notifies about each
    post watching first post only notifies about initial post in a topic.
    * Closest to our topics are the tags a11y and accessibility. Are
    these meant for the same thing or is one prefered over the other?
    * Consuming discourse through email is working and possible. What I
    am not sure about is where and how to post discussions we are having
    here in this list to the discourse. Where does it belong? Is it an
    applications category? What tags to apply? Shal we use tag
    accessibility, a11y or something else?
    * There is no way to create post by email and tag it with a specific
    tag like a11y or accessibility. Given the fact orca users prefer
    email discussions wouldn't it be good to recommend a category so new
    discourse users can post their messages by email to? Apparently gimp
    users have the same query.


    Thanks for reading this. Can you please help us to clear some of
    these things please?

    Hopefully we will be able to keep this community of screen reader
    users together on a new platform.

    Thanks and greetings

    Peter


    Dňa 20. 10. 2022 o 13:09 Andrea Veri napísal(a):

    Hi,

    As we have been communicating during the past few months GNOME's
    Mailman platform is being decommissioned (python2 deprecation,
    major burden in managing lists spam). The deadline is currently
    set to the end of October 2022. Mailing list subscribers are
    invited to migrate to GNOME's Discourse instance [1]. Neil made
    sure [2] to create a set of tags you can re-use to initiate a new
    topic in the new platform, if a tag is missing please reach out to
    me directly.

    Jehan (from the GIMP Team) kindly provided some instructions you
    can follow [3] in order to safely migrate your reading workflow to
    Discourse. The new platform supports several login methods
    including your GNOME Account and other major OpenID providers.

    After the deadline of the end of October Mailman archives will
    remain alive in read only mode for posterity. If the mailing list
    was used behind an alias, please let me know so we can re-do the
    same setup but on Discourse instead.

    Thanks,

    P.S All the l10n lists are still pending code changes in
    damned-lies, the deadline to decommission those lists may slip by
    a week or two depending how soon those changes will be made
    available in DL codebase

    [1] https://discourse.gnome.org <https://discourse.gnome.org>
    [2]
    https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2022-September/msg00018.html 
<https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2022-September/msg00018.html>
    [3]
    https://discourse.gnome.org/t/welcome-to-gimp-forum-on-gnome-discourse/11534/5 
<https://discourse.gnome.org/t/welcome-to-gimp-forum-on-gnome-discourse/11534/5>
-- Cheers, 
    Andrea

    Principal Systems Engineer at Red Hat,
    GNOME Infrastructure Team Coordinator,
    Former GNOME Foundation Board of Directors Secretary,
    GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman

    Homepage: https://www.dragonsreach.it <https://www.dragonsreach.it>

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    https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list  <https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list>
    Orca wiki:https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca  <https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca>
    Orca documentation:https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/  <https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/>
    GNOME Universal Access guide:https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html  
<https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html>




--
Cheers,
Andrea

Principal Systems Engineer at Red Hat,
GNOME Infrastructure Team Coordinator,
Former GNOME Foundation Board of Directors Secretary,
GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman

Homepage: https://www.dragonsreach.it <https://www.dragonsreach.it>

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