Re: [orca-list] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

[Andrea Veri <av gnome org>]

There was a small hiccup with the mailing service while we transitioned it to a better hosting space, should be all good by now, thank you!

On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 4:28 PM Jean-Philippe MENGUAL <jpmengual hypra fr> wrote:

Hi,

Thanks for all this. Here is my situation now:
1. Created an account
2. Enabled the watch for the Accessibility category (then the tracking
mode, more complete):
https://discourse.gnome.org/c/community/accessibility/340

Result:
- I did not received mails from Samuel
- when I wrote to accessibility discourse gnome org, no feedback, except
if the mail is html, in which case the server says I am not trust.

So the result just does not work for me so far. My doubts:
- not completely sure the activation of tracking works, I am not able to
check it with orca
- the mail sending does not seem to work

Regards

Le 20/10/2022 à 15:45, Andrea Veri a écrit :
> Peter,
>
> Thank you for the quick recap, really appreciate it, I went ahead and
> created the Accessibility sub-category for you under Community. I also
> enabled the mail interface against accessibility discourse gnome org
> <mailto:accessibility discourse gnome org>. At the end of October I'll
> switch orca-list to point to accessibility discourse gnome org
> <mailto:accessibility discourse gnome org> and your workflow will remain
> the same, you will just have to update filters on your mail client.
>
> Let me know if that'd do it for you, thanks!
>
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 3:02 PM Peter Vágner <pvagner pvagner tk
> <mailto:pvagner pvagner tk>> wrote:
>
>     __
>     Hello Andrea,
>
>     I am also sending copy of this message to orca list. And I see it as
>     a recap of what has been discussed so far.
>
>     Discourse is very accessible platform when it comes to using it with
>     a screen reader running. Majority of orca list members are visualy
>     disabled peope who might be able to make some good use of it as a
>     traditional email list replacement.
>     However we had a discussion on this about a month ago at
>     https://mail.gnome.org/archives/orca-list/2022-September/msg00020.html <https://mail.gnome.org/archives/orca-list/2022-September/msg00020.html> and here are notable key points we are seeing when trying to use the discourse as an email list replacement.
>
>     * There are  instructions for those who like to use discourse as an
>     email lists:
>     https://discourse.gnome.org/t/interacting-with-discourse-via-email/46/2 <https://discourse.gnome.org/t/interacting-with-discourse-via-email/46/2>
>     * It even allows creating new topics through email within selected
>     categories.
>     * Here is a discussion about the mailing list mode too:
>     https://meta.discourse.org/t/what-is-mailing-list-mode/46008/8
>     <https://meta.discourse.org/t/what-is-mailing-list-mode/46008/8>
>     * You can configure it in your preferences. For example I've
>     registered to the gnome discourse with the username pvagner and here
>     is link to my email preferences:
>     https://discourse.gnome.org/u/pvagner/preferences/emails
>     <https://discourse.gnome.org/u/pvagner/preferences/emails> . Of
>     course yours will be different. If this is turned on reportedly all
>     the discourse instance messages are relayed to your mailbox as a
>     traditional email list.
>     * Also there is a feature which will send out summaries of popular
>     topics if you are not active on the web interface of discourse. This
>     can be turned off within the email settings of your discourse
>     account too.
>     * Independent of this mailing list mode, there is also ability to
>     track or watch topics or watch first post of a topic.
>     * There is ability to watch tags or categories. Here is a discussion
>     about these discourse features:
>     https://meta.discourse.org/t/actual-difference-between-tracked-and-watching-first-post/61036 <https://meta.discourse.org/t/actual-difference-between-tracked-and-watching-first-post/61036>
>     * Just a note on tracking vs watching. Tracking is web UI only and
>     watching includes email notifications. Watching notifies about each
>     post watching first post only notifies about initial post in a topic.
>     * Closest to our topics are the tags a11y and accessibility. Are
>     these meant for the same thing or is one prefered over the other?
>     * Consuming discourse through email is working and possible. What I
>     am not sure about is where and how to post discussions we are having
>     here in this list to the discourse. Where does it belong? Is it an
>     applications category? What tags to apply? Shal we use tag
>     accessibility, a11y or something else?
>     * There is no way to create post by email and tag it with a specific
>     tag like a11y or accessibility. Given the fact orca users prefer
>     email discussions wouldn't it be good to recommend a category so new
>     discourse users can post their messages by email to? Apparently gimp
>     users have the same query.
>
>
>     Thanks for reading this. Can you please help us to clear some of
>     these things please?
>
>     Hopefully we will be able to keep this community of screen reader
>     users together on a new platform.
>
>     Thanks and greetings
>
>     Peter
>
>
>     Dňa 20. 10. 2022 o 13:09 Andrea Veri napísal(a):
>>     Hi,
>>
>>     As we have been communicating during the past few months GNOME's
>>     Mailman platform is being decommissioned (python2 deprecation,
>>     major burden in managing lists spam). The deadline is currently
>>     set to the end of October 2022. Mailing list subscribers are
>>     invited to migrate to GNOME's Discourse instance [1]. Neil made
>>     sure [2] to create a set of tags you can re-use to initiate a new
>>     topic in the new platform, if a tag is missing please reach out to
>>     me directly.
>>
>>     Jehan (from the GIMP Team) kindly provided some instructions you
>>     can follow [3] in order to safely migrate your reading workflow to
>>     Discourse. The new platform supports several login methods
>>     including your GNOME Account and other major OpenID providers.
>>
>>     After the deadline of the end of October Mailman archives will
>>     remain alive in read only mode for posterity. If the mailing list
>>     was used behind an alias, please let me know so we can re-do the
>>     same setup but on Discourse instead.
>>
>>     Thanks,
>>
>>     P.S All the l10n lists are still pending code changes in
>>     damned-lies, the deadline to decommission those lists may slip by
>>     a week or two depending how soon those changes will be made
>>     available in DL codebase
>>
>>     [1] https://discourse.gnome.org <https://discourse.gnome.org>
>>     [2]
>>     https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2022-September/msg00018.html <https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2022-September/msg00018.html>
>>     [3]
>>     https://discourse.gnome.org/t/welcome-to-gimp-forum-on-gnome-discourse/11534/5 <https://discourse.gnome.org/t/welcome-to-gimp-forum-on-gnome-discourse/11534/5>
>>
>>     --
>>     Cheers,
>>     Andrea
>>
>>     Principal Systems Engineer at Red Hat,
>>     GNOME Infrastructure Team Coordinator,
>>     Former GNOME Foundation Board of Directors Secretary,
>>     GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman
>>
>>     Homepage: https://www.dragonsreach.it <https://www.dragonsreach.it>
>>
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>>     https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list  <https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list>
>>     Orca wiki:https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca  <https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca>
>>     Orca documentation:https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/  <https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/>
>>     GNOME Universal Access guide:https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html  <https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html>
>
>
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Andrea
>
> Principal Systems Engineer at Red Hat,
> GNOME Infrastructure Team Coordinator,
> Former GNOME Foundation Board of Directors Secretary,
> GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman
>
> Homepage: https://www.dragonsreach.it <https://www.dragonsreach.it>
>
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--

Cheers,

Andrea

Principal Systems Engineer at Red Hat,

GNOME Infrastructure Team Coordinator,

Former GNOME Foundation Board of Directors Secretary,

GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman

Homepage: https://www.dragonsreach.it