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Re: [orca-list] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

So would I need a Discourse account to keep posting to the new thing, or would just replying to emails from my existing list address be enough? 



On 10/20/22 14:45, Andrea Veri wrote:

Peter,

Thank you for the quick recap, really appreciate it, I went ahead and
created the Accessibility sub-category for you under Community. I also
enabled the mail interface against accessibility discourse gnome org. At
the end of October I'll switch orca-list to point to
accessibility discourse gnome org and your workflow will remain the same,
you will just have to update filters on your mail client.

Let me know if that'd do it for you, thanks!

On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 3:02 PM Peter Vágner <pvagner pvagner tk> wrote:


Hello Andrea,

I am also sending copy of this message to orca list. And I see it as a
recap of what has been discussed so far.

Discourse is very accessible platform when it comes to using it with a
screen reader running. Majority of orca list members are visualy disabled
peope who might be able to make some good use of it as a traditional email
list replacement.
However we had a discussion on this about a month ago at
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/orca-list/2022-September/msg00020.html
and here are notable key points we are seeing when trying to use the
discourse as an email list replacement.

* There are  instructions for those who like to use discourse as an email
lists:
https://discourse.gnome.org/t/interacting-with-discourse-via-email/46/2
* It even allows creating new topics through email within selected
categories.
* Here is a discussion about the mailing list mode too:
https://meta.discourse.org/t/what-is-mailing-list-mode/46008/8
* You can configure it in your preferences. For example I've registered to
the gnome discourse with the username pvagner and here is link to my email
preferences: https://discourse.gnome.org/u/pvagner/preferences/emails .
Of course yours will be different. If this is turned on reportedly all the
discourse instance messages are relayed to your mailbox as a traditional
email list.
* Also there is a feature which will send out summaries of popular topics
if you are not active on the web interface of discourse. This can be turned
off within the email settings of your discourse account too.
* Independent of this mailing list mode, there is also ability to track or
watch topics or watch first post of a topic.
* There is ability to watch tags or categories. Here is a discussion about
these discourse features:
https://meta.discourse.org/t/actual-difference-between-tracked-and-watching-first-post/61036
* Just a note on tracking vs watching. Tracking is web UI only and
watching includes email notifications. Watching notifies about each post
watching first post only notifies about initial post in a topic.
* Closest to our topics are the tags a11y and accessibility. Are these
meant for the same thing or is one prefered over the other?
* Consuming discourse through email is working and possible. What I am not
sure about is where and how to post discussions we are having here in this
list to the discourse. Where does it belong? Is it an applications
category? What tags to apply? Shal we use tag accessibility, a11y or
something else?
* There is no way to create post by email and tag it with a specific tag
like a11y or accessibility. Given the fact orca users prefer email
discussions wouldn't it be good to recommend a category so new discourse
users can post their messages by email to? Apparently gimp users have the
same query.


Thanks for reading this. Can you please help us to clear some of these
things please?

Hopefully we will be able to keep this community of screen reader  users
together on a new platform.

Thanks and greetings

Peter


Dňa 20. 10. 2022 o 13:09 Andrea Veri napísal(a):

Hi,

As we have been communicating during the past few months GNOME's Mailman
platform is being decommissioned (python2 deprecation, major burden in
managing lists spam). The deadline is currently set to the end of October
2022. Mailing list subscribers are invited to migrate to GNOME's Discourse
instance [1]. Neil made sure [2] to create a set of tags you can re-use to
initiate a new topic in the new platform, if a tag is missing please reach
out to me directly.

Jehan (from the GIMP Team) kindly provided some instructions you can
follow [3] in order to safely migrate your reading workflow to Discourse.
The new platform supports several login methods including your GNOME
Account and other major OpenID providers.

After the deadline of the end of October Mailman archives will remain
alive in read only mode for posterity. If the mailing list was used behind
an alias, please let me know so we can re-do the same setup but on
Discourse instead.

Thanks,

P.S All the l10n lists are still pending code changes in damned-lies, the
deadline to decommission those lists may slip by a week or two depending
how soon those changes will be made available in DL codebase

[1] https://discourse.gnome.org
[2]
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2022-September/msg00018.html
[3]
https://discourse.gnome.org/t/welcome-to-gimp-forum-on-gnome-discourse/11534/5

--
Cheers,
Andrea

Principal Systems Engineer at Red Hat,
GNOME Infrastructure Team Coordinator,
Former GNOME Foundation Board of Directors Secretary,
GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman

Homepage: https://www.dragonsreach.it

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