Re: [orca-list] Continual reading problem

[Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>]

As an in-the-meantime workaround, is there any chance you could locally
do a find and replace to convert the newlines to spaces? Mind you, I'm
not saying we shouldn't see if there's a good solution I can put in
Orca. Just that you seem to have a possibly unique and definitely
annoying problem, and a timely fix seems desirable.

On Mon, 2022-01-17 at 18:33 +0100, Vojtech šmiro via orca-list wrote:
> OK, bud what about books with enters after words, not spaces? I
> cannot 
> read with this.
>
> Vojta.
>
> Dne 17. 01. 22 v 16:49 Milton napsal(a):
> > Hi,
> >
> > I like the way Orca is currently reading, I clearly can hear when
> > Orca 
> > reads a list.
> >
> > Milton
> >
> > Op 17-01-2022 om 15:13 schreef Joanmarie Diggs:
> > > Hi Vojta, all.
> > >
> > > I can confirm what you're seeing. I did a quick test in Gedit.
> > >
> > > What Orca does is ask the app/toolkit for the current sentence,
> > > then
> > > the next, then the next, etc. Gtk (and possibly other toolkits)
> > > is
> > > treating a newline as a sentence end. I can see how that would be
> > > annoying. However, just ignoring what Gtk (and possibly others)
> > > report
> > > as a sentence might lead to undesired SayAll behavior elsewhere.
> > > For
> > > instance, what if the text is not a book, but list of items, one
> > > per
> > > line? If  Orca combined all that into a single SayAll sentence,
> > > it
> > > might sound like gibberish. So we need to find a way to reliably
> > > identify when a newline character is a sentence boundary versus
> > > when it
> > > isn't -- despite what the app or toolkit tells us.
> > >
> > > Suggestions welcomed.
> > > --joanie
> > >
> > > On Sat, 2022-01-15 at 13:56 +0100, Vojtech šmiro via orca-list
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > by sentence.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards
> > > >
> > > > Vojta.
> > > >
> > > > Dne 15. 01. 22 v 13:37 Joanmarie Diggs napsal(a):
> > > > > Are you doing say all by line or by sentence (in your Orca
> > > > > prefs)?
> > > > > --joanie
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, 2022-01-15 at 12:33 +0100, Vojtech šmiro via orca-
> > > > > list
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have the following problem with continual reading of some
> > > > > > texts.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am registered in library for the visually impaired
> > > > > > persons.
> > > > > > There
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > scanned books from volunteers, but some books have problem.
> > > > > > Some
> > > > > > words
> > > > > > are divided not by space, but by enter key. I will write
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > example.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Begin of the example
> > > > > > This is a test. In this test I will
> > > > > > show you, how are books
> > > > > > wrote.
> > > > > > End of the example
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Windows users don't have problems with this. But Orca makes
> > > > > > really
> > > > > > long
> > > > > > space, when is enter key after words, not space. Please, is
> > > > > > some
> > > > > > way
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > repair it? Windows screenreaders ignores enters and don't
> > > > > > do that
> > > > > > long
> > > > > > space during reading.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks a lot.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best regards
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Vojta.
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