Re: [orca-list] The LibreOffice's low accessibility

[Devin Prater <r d t prater gmail com>]

Of course, I should have looked, lol. I'll do that once I get my Linux container in Crostini on the Chromebook fixed. I hope it's just upgrading to LXD 4.

Devin Prater

r d t prater gmail com

On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 4:14 PM Jude DaShiell <jdashiel panix com> wrote:

Emacs comes with a forms package built-in.  It takes a little study to
build the support files for a form but those forms are accessible.  Type
info forms to read about that package.


On Fri, 14 Jan 2022, Devin Prater via orca-list wrote:

> Yep, at my job, we wanted to make a form in LibreOffice, and I could not
> figure out how to do this. It's really frustrating.
> Devin Prater
> r d t prater gmail com
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> On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 1:57 PM Jean-Philippe MENGUAL via orca-list <
> orca-list gnome org> wrote:
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> > Hi,
> > Le 14/01/2022 ? 20:11, Vsevolod Popov via orca-list a ?crit :
> > > Hello everyone.
> > > Recently, Jean-Philippe Mengual mentioned that LibreOffice has low
> > > accessibility.
> > > Could you please explain what software from it's collection has
> > > accessibility issues and what are they?
> >
> > To sum up, I would say that the graphical interfae is globally
> > accessible, even if things could be improved in programs such as Impress
> > and Calc. However some features are now difficult to use, LO experiences
> > some crashes due probably to its interaction with accessibility layer,
> > and some advanced features are not quite accessible. Finally, and
> > probably the most difficult, in the documents in Writer, while you have
> > an access to text, head and fotpage, you don't have an easy access to
> > footnote except via the flat review. Access to comments is terrible.
> > Access to the collaborative marks is hard. Access to the objects such as
> > images or insertion of objects is not there. Accessibility in a complex
> > document with frames and sections is difficult too. But tables work
> > fine. Spell checking works more or less, even if the mispelling is only
> > announced if you have the caret on the mispelled word. The dialog has
> > improved but still improvements to be done.
> >
> >
> > > The reason why I am asking is that I want to switch as completely as
> > > possible from Windows to Linux and use LibreOffice Writer for working
> > > with documents.
> >
> > You can, I do everyday.
> >
> > > Are these things like formatting the documents with styles accessible
> > > like we do in MS Word?
> >
> > Styles is the most frustrating feature I know in LO. Because it has been
> > accessible until 4.2 and experienced a big regression since then. Today,
> > for basic styles title 1 to 3, a submenu in Format makes this possible.
> > But to tweak styles in details, I consider it is a pain. The dialog to
> > handle numbering of chaptiers is hard too. The same for the Charachters
> > dialog.
> >
> > The problem comes if you havae advanced needs. However, flat review and
> > some experience enables you to workaround many accessibility problems,
> > but it is not always straightford.
> >
> > > Creating contents, headings all that things with documents?
> >
> > It is easy until level 3, but after it, it requires a lot of additional
> > things to do
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > > What accessibility issues can be found?
> > > Thank you for any help.
> > > --
> > > regards,
> > > Vsevolod
> > > https://github.com/sevapopov2/
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