Re: [orca-list] Anyone using evolution 40 with orca?

[Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>]

In order for focus and browse mode to work, Orca's WebKitGtk support
has to be ported to use Orca's generic Web script. Every time I start
working on that, I find various and sundry bugs in WebKitGtk some of
which are pretty serious like the application going completely non
responsive. I think these are mostly in WebKitGtk's AtkText support.
There are other AtkText bugs which cause Orca to not present the
correct thing, or anything at all.

As a result, Orca is essentially always in a sort of hybrid focus mode
in WebKitGtk: The app controls all navigation, but Orca will intercept
structural navigation keys. That's why turning off structural
navigation keys via shortcut solves the writing email problem.

I can look into the backspace and deleting issue. Maybe it's an Orca
issue, but my gut is telling me it might actually be a WebKitGtk text
issue. Word echo might indeed be Orca. I hope WebKitGtk's text support
isn't that broken....

So I'm afraid this is mostly not a case of low-hanging fruit. Sorry!!

If someone would create an accessible email client based on Blink, I
think we'd be set.  ;)

--joanie

On Thu, 2021-04-29 at 08:06 -0400, Kyle via orca-list wrote:
> There is currently no problem reading the list of messages in
> Evolution, 
> although I recall there were quite a few accessibility issues some
> years 
> include a problem where some multipart messages are not being read 
> properly and remain largely silent, including, but I don't think
> limited 
> to messages sent via Apple Mail on iPhones, which seems to be a 
> webkit-gtk issue from what I've been able to gather from a bug I
> filed, 
> activated in the editor and cannot be activated, though turning off 
> structural navigation does allow writing, and the other is that word 
> echo is not working properly and backspacing or deleting are silent. 
> There are some other minor things, but these are the low hanging
> fruit I 
> think. Once these issues can be fixed, Evolution will be the
> formidable 
> email application it once was, and it will be able to completely
> replace 
> Thunderbird and Seamonkey on most systems, especially since it's
> faster 
> and uses less resources overall.
>
> ~Kyle
>
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