Re: [orca-list] Fwd: Shift and shift plus tab not working, Google Chrome dev Orca master latest commit
- From: Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>
- To: Andy Borka <sonfire11 gmail com>, Orca List <orca-list gnome org>
- Subject: Re: [orca-list] Fwd: Shift and shift plus tab not working, Google Chrome dev Orca master latest commit
- Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2020 12:35:22 -0400
Hi Andy.
The instructions for obtaining a full debug.out can be found here:
https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca/Debugging
But please hold off for a little bit as I add some more debugging output
to Orca so we can try to pin this down.
Thanks again!
--joanie
On 3/18/20 12:27, Andy Borka via orca-list wrote:
Hi,
I have no idea why it works for you and not me. When I ran:
google-chrome-unstable www.google.com <http://www.google.com>
in a terminal, while chrome loaded, I saw almost 5 screens of errors
related to unreadable maps and errors referencing sandboxes and not
being allowed to call multiple threads against a GPU. The page did load,
but Orca still refused to speak elements when pressing tab. Remind me
how to make a full debug.out and I will create one for you.
On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 12:15 PM Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com
<mailto:jdiggs igalia com>> wrote:
So here are my steps to reproduce:
1. In a terminal where I have ACCESSIBILITY_ENABLED=1, type:
google-chrome-unstable https://google.com <https://google.com>
2. Wait for the page to load and then press Tab to move amongst items
Expected and actual results: Tab moves amongst items and Orca presents
each item moved to.
What am I doing that you are not doing?
On 3/18/20 12:10, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> A full debug.out would show what happened when Tab/Shift+Tab were
> pressed. For instance, it would tell us if there was an event
related to
> the focus change and if so why Orca chose not to present it (if
that is
> indeed what's going on).
>
> On 3/18/20 10:54, Andy Borka via orca-list wrote:
>> Hi,
>> This bug is confirmed on Ubuntu 20.04, Orca master, Chrome-unstable
>> 82.0.4083 with a few exceptions. When starting Chrome initially,
>> tab/shift+tab appears not to work.
>> Checking on the current position with numpad enter indicates
that Orca
>> could be getting stuck somewhere. Unfortunately, it is almost
>> impossible to tell for sure if Orca is getting stuck, or it just
>> doesn't speak the objects it runs into. A full debug.out didn't
give
>> any useful information other than the settings manager was able to
>> load settings. It doesn't make any difference if
>> --force-renderer-accessibility and --enable-caret-browsing is
enabled
>> or disabled. I still get the same result. It also seems that
>> ACCESSIBILITY_ENABLED=1 has no affect. This only started after the
>> 82.0.4083 update last week. This leads me to believe that it is a
>> Chromium problem, since before the update the required flags made
>> Chrome happy in accessible mode. What should we do next? Oh, this
>> problem only shows itself with tab/shift+tab. The quicknav keys
work
>> just fine.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 8:45 AM Joanmarie Diggs
<jdiggs igalia com <mailto:jdiggs igalia com>
>> <mailto:jdiggs igalia com <mailto:jdiggs igalia com>>> wrote:
>>
>> I cannot reproduce this. That said, do you mean that
Tab/Shift+Tab
>> are
>> moving you, but Orca is not presenting the new locations to
you?
>> Or do
>> you mean that Tab/Shift+Tab are not even moving you to the next
>> focusable object? The reason I ask is that Orca does not
take over
>> Tab/Shift+Tab. Those keystrokes are given to the browser.
>>
>> If you can reliably reproduce this problem, please capture a
full
>> debug.out and send it to me.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> --joanie
>>
>> On 3/18/20 04:45, Pavel Vlček via orca-list wrote:
>> > Steps to reproduce:
>> >
>> > - check if you have the latest Chromium / Google Chrome dev
>> version and
>> > the latest Orca Master version
>> >
>> > - open Chromium / Chrome
>> >
>> > - go to www.google.com <http://www.google.com>
<http://www.google.com <http://www.google.com>>
>> >
>> > expected result:
>> >
>> > - Orca will navigate with tab and shift tab between links and
>> form elements
>> >
>> > actual result:
>> >
>> > - Navigation with tab and shift tab not working.
>> >
>> > My system Fedora 31, the latest Google Chrome and the
latest Orca
>> > Master, navigation worked before I updated to the latest
commit.
>> >
>> > Pavel
>> >
>> >
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>> <https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
<https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca>>
>> > Orca documentation:
https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
<https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/>
>> <https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
<https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/>>
>> > GNOME Universal Access guide:
>> > https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
<https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html>
>> <https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
<https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html>>
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<https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca>>
>> Orca documentation:
https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
<https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/>
>> <https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
<https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/>>
>> GNOME Universal Access guide:
>> https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
<https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html>
>> <https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
<https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html>>
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>> Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
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>> Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
<https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/>
>> GNOME Universal Access guide:
>> https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
<https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html>
>>
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> Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
<https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/>
> GNOME Universal Access guide:
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