Re: [orca-list] Fwd: Shift and shift plus tab not working, Google Chrome dev Orca master latest commit

[Andy Borka <sonfire11 gmail com>]

Hi,

I have no idea why it works for you and not me. When I ran:

google-chrome-unstable www.google.com

in a terminal, while chrome loaded, I saw almost 5 screens of errors related to unreadable maps and errors referencing sandboxes and not being allowed to call multiple threads against a GPU. The page did load, but Orca still refused to speak elements when pressing tab. Remind me how to make a full debug.out and I will create one for you.

On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 12:15 PM Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com> wrote:

So here are my steps to reproduce:

1. In a terminal where I have ACCESSIBILITY_ENABLED=1, type:

    google-chrome-unstable https://google.com

2. Wait for the page to load and then press Tab to move amongst items

Expected and actual results: Tab moves amongst items and Orca presents
each item moved to.

What am I doing that you are not doing?

On 3/18/20 12:10, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> A full debug.out would show what happened when Tab/Shift+Tab were
> pressed. For instance, it would tell us if there was an event related to
> the focus change and if so why Orca chose not to present it (if that is
> indeed what's going on).
>
> On 3/18/20 10:54, Andy Borka via orca-list wrote:
>> Hi,
>> This bug is confirmed on Ubuntu 20.04, Orca master, Chrome-unstable
>> 82.0.4083 with a few exceptions. When starting Chrome initially,
>> tab/shift+tab appears not to work.
>> Checking on the current position with numpad enter indicates that Orca
>> could be getting stuck somewhere. Unfortunately, it is almost
>> impossible to tell for sure if Orca is getting stuck, or it just
>> doesn't speak the objects it runs into. A full debug.out didn't give
>> any useful information other than the settings manager was able to
>> load settings. It doesn't make any difference if
>> --force-renderer-accessibility and --enable-caret-browsing is enabled
>> or disabled. I still get the same result. It also seems that
>> ACCESSIBILITY_ENABLED=1 has no affect. This only started after the
>> 82.0.4083 update last week. This leads me to believe that it is a
>> Chromium problem, since before the update the required flags made
>> Chrome happy in accessible mode. What should we do next? Oh, this
>> problem only shows itself with tab/shift+tab. The quicknav keys work
>> just fine.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 8:45 AM Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com
>> <mailto:jdiggs igalia com>> wrote:
>>
>>     I cannot reproduce this. That said, do you mean that Tab/Shift+Tab
>> are
>>     moving you, but Orca is not presenting the new locations to you?
>> Or do
>>     you mean that Tab/Shift+Tab are not even moving you to the next
>>     focusable object? The reason I ask is that Orca does not take over
>>     Tab/Shift+Tab. Those keystrokes are given to the browser.
>>
>>     If you can reliably reproduce this problem, please capture a full
>>     debug.out and send it to me.
>>
>>     Thanks!
>>     --joanie
>>
>>     On 3/18/20 04:45, Pavel Vlček via orca-list wrote:
>>      > Steps to reproduce:
>>      >
>>      > - check if you have the latest Chromium / Google Chrome dev
>>     version and
>>      > the latest Orca Master version
>>      >
>>      > - open Chromium / Chrome
>>      >
>>      > - go to www.google.com <http://www.google.com>
>>      >
>>      > expected result:
>>      >
>>      > - Orca will navigate with tab and shift tab between links and
>>     form elements
>>      >
>>      > actual result:
>>      >
>>      > - Navigation with tab and shift tab not working.
>>      >
>>      > My system Fedora 31, the latest Google Chrome and the latest Orca
>>      > Master, navigation worked before I updated to the latest commit.
>>      >
>>      > Pavel
>>      >
>>      >
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