Re: [orca-list] Tips and tricks for Orca and Firefox

[Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>]

Hi Jeanette.

As I announced on the Orca list the other day, 3.36.4 should not be
used because I failed to cherry-pick something and it broke web access.
I fixed the issue the day after 3.36.4 was released and did a 3.36.5
release.

Sorry about that.
--joanie

On Fri, 2020-08-14 at 21:50 +0200, Jeanette C. via orca-list wrote:
> Aug 14 2020, Rob Hudson has written:
>
> > You say the experience is unsatisfactory. That could mean a lot of
> > things. If you give us a specific example we might be able to
> > better direct you.
> Based on the Youtube experience, I sometimes don't know when Orca is
> in
> which mode or not? How to navigate with cursor keys in particular
> situations? Is there a way to get a structural overview of a window?
> Can
> I "disengage" with the web content and see all the sidebars, toolbars
> and possible buttons in the Firefox window? As well as other open
> tabs?
>
> Some good practise on when to engage which Orca mode might also help
> and
> when to turn off automatic mode changing, possibly. I am referring to
> browser mode, focus mode and object mode.
>
> On a different level, the raction of the system is sometimes quite
> sluggish, this is running on a 3 gigaHertz quad core desktop computer
> with minimal desktop activity and no other background processes to
> speak
> of. Also sometimes the speech output will not reliably reflect what
> is
> going on. Braille isn't very helpful either, but that is to be
> expected
> and no real concern.
>
> Sorry, if this rather widens the field than narrowing it down.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Jeanette
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jeanette C. via orca-list" <orca-list gnome org>
> > To: orca users' mailinglist <orca-list gnome org>
> > Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 20:43:15 +0200 (CEST)
> > Subject: [orca-list] Tips and tricks for Orca and Firefox
> >
> > > Hey hey,
> > > after a long pause, I have just returned to using Orca (version
> > > 3.36.4) with
> > > the Mate desktop environment (version 1.24).
> > >
> > > To get back into this environment I bgan by reading the Orca
> > > online manual
> > > from the GNOME project website
> > > https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
> > >
> > > Testing the waters by using Firefox and the Youtube website, I
> > > find the
> > > experience not very satisfactory.
> > >
> > > So I wonder if there is a tutorial for using Orca, especially
> > > with Firefox,
> > > using all the Orca features, keyboard shortcuts to optimise the
> > > experience. I
> > > have found a 25 minute Youtube introduction to Orca, but nothing
> > > more helpful.
> > >
> > > I am very familiar with Linux as such and have occasionally used
> > > mac OS and
> > > VoiceOver in the past, also mostly focusing on browsing the web,
> > > since most of
> > > my work is perfectly suited to the commandline.
> > >
> > > If you have any good pointers to relevant documentattion,
> > > tutorials or
> > > specific command overviews, I'd be very grateful.
> > >
> > > Best wishes and many thanks in advance,
> > >
> > > Jeanette
> > >
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