Re: [orca-list] orca command-line configuration question, some success!

[Jude DaShiell <jdashiel panix com>]

Excellent, so you're using gnome and not mate.

On Fri, 3 May 2019, Willem van der Walt wrote:

> Date: Fri, 3 May 2019 07:17:29
> From: Willem van der Walt <wvdwalt csir co za>
> To: Milton <milton duurzaamdigitaal org>
> Cc: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel panix com>, orca-list gnome org
> Subject: Re: [orca-list] orca command-line configuration question,
>     some success!
>
> Thanks, this seem to work. the super-a does indeed bring up a number of
> applications, selectable by a pushbutton.
> Thanks, Willem
>
>
> On Fri, 3 May 2019, Milton wrote:
>
> > Hi Willem,
> >
> > I think you land on GNOME desktop of Ubuntu.
> >
> > Alt+F1 then takes you to the favorite menu on the left edge of the screen.
> >
> > Press Alt+Control+Escape to land on the desktop. From there you can continue
> > for example:
> >
> > Super+A to see all applications;
> >
> > Alt+Control+Tab takes you to the notification menu on the top right of the
> > screen etc.
> >
> > Milton
> >
> > Op 03-05-19 om 10:31 schreef Willem van der Walt:
> >> Hi Jude,
> >> Thanks for the suggestion.
> >> It unfortunately does not work.
> >> When pressing alt-f1, it says:
> >> "window"
> >> When I then press 8 on the numpad, it says:
> >> "image activities Fri 10 10 image image image image image"
> >> Pressing f10 does nothing that I can detect.
> >> When pressing alt-f2, I usually can type a command.
> >>> From there I tried running mate-menu and was rewarded with silence.
> >> The same went for mate-terminal.
> >> When running, I think, gnome-shell, I got a terminal prompt.
> >> I am not sure as I also tried running gnome-terminal, but had no immediate
> >> reaction.
> >> in ~/.config/autostart, I have,m apart from the orca autostart file, only
> >> ubuntu-mate-welcome.desktop.
> >> Mostly, I need the gui to run firefox, and I will be able to do that now,
> >> but I would prefer to fix up the thing properly.
> >> Any ideas?
> >> Regards, Willem
> >>
> >> n Thu, 2 May 2019, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> >>
> >>> Maybe try hitting f10 and see if a bunch of menus come up.? Alternately
> >>> control-alt-tab gets you into top bar, then left and right arrow then
> >>> down arrow into desired menu if it's on the bar.
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, 2 May 2019, Willem van der Walt wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 10:53:48
> >>>> From: Willem van der Walt <wvdwalt csir co za>
> >>>> Cc: orca-list gnome org
> >>>> Subject: Re: [orca-list] orca command-line configuration question,
> >>>> ??? some success!
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Didier,
> >>>> Thanks.
> >>>> From what you say, there must still be something wrong with my mate
> >>>> installation.
> >>>> In the old Orca/gnome setup I had before, alt-f1 did bring up a menu, but
> >>>> now,
> >>>> I just get something like "window" spoken.
> >>>> I am not at the machine now, so cannot verify exactly.
> >>>> Thanks for the pointers.
> >>>> Regards, Willem
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, 2 May 2019, Didier Spaier wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> > [The e-mail server of the sender could not be verified (SPF Record)]
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Hello Peter,
> >>>> >
> >>>> > for orca, a good way to learn is to use he integrated learning mode.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Just press Orca+h and you will be guided.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > In Mate, Alt+F1 should raise the menu, from which you can navigate
> >>>> using the
> >>>> > arrow keys.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Other than that, it's hard? to guide you as the key bindings for Mate
> >>>> depend
> >>>> > on the way it is configured.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > But you can know what they are (and change them) pressing Alt+F2 then
> >>>> > typing: mate-keybinding-properties, confirming with Enter and using the
> >>>> > arrow keys to navigate in the properties' menu.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > You can also type the commands in mate-terminal, that you can raise
> >>>> pressing
> >>>> > Alt+F2 then typing mate-terminal, or from the menu.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Also, most Mate graphical components have an associated help, if yelp
> >>>> is
> >>>> > installed: then you will find the Help button pressing Tab several
> >>>> times.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Hope this helps,
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Didier
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On 02/05/2019 15:05, Willem van der Walt wrote:
> >>>> >> Hi everyone,
> >>>> >> I now seem to have orca coming up each time I run startx from the user
> >>>> I
> >>>> >> created for experimentation.
> >>>> >> Although somewhat by accident, I do not have a gui login coming up at
> >>>> boot,
> >>>> >> which is actually what I prefer.
> >>>> >> So I believe I have mate installed as the desktop for this gui user of
> >>>> >> mine.? It does not say a lot, but I once succeeded to get to a place
> >>>> where
> >>>> >> I could type a command by pressing alt-f2.
> >>>> >> I tried firefox and could get to a web site.
> >>>> >> As you can gather, I think since the very old versions of
> >>>> Orca/desktops I
> >>>> >> used, things have changed a lot.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> I do not have to use mate, but since that is what I seem to have going
> >>>> now,
> >>>> >> I need some tutorial spesific to orca use with mate, since I do not
> >>>> know
> >>>> >> either of the two.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> I had a look at the orca manual, but what I saw looks like it assumes
> >>>> that
> >>>> >> one knows how to operate the desktop and goes into things like
> >>>> navigating
> >>>> >> documents etc.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Any pointers, even just to the relevant section of the orca manual,
> >>>> would
> >>>> >> be welcome.
> >>>> >> Kind regards, Willem
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> On Thu, 2 May 2019, Peter V?gner wrote:
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>> Hello,
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> Sorry for adding more confusion.
> >>>> >>> So on slint no pulseaudio is ever used until some one directly or
> >>>> >>> indirectly inwokes it.
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> And alsa is used by default all the time except of the case when
> >>>> pulse
> >>>> >>> audio is started. If pulseaudio is started then its alsa emulation is
> >>>> used
> >>>> >>> not to break alsa dependant apps in such a way that they can play
> >>>> sound
> >>>> >>> simultaneously.
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> This sounds awesome and theoretically speaking might help hardcore
> >>>> alsa
> >>>> >>> users like Janina to live a bit better in the situations where
> >>>> pulseaudio
> >>>> >>> is difficult to avoid entirely.
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> Greetings
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> Peter
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> D?a May 2, 2019 12:09:23 PM UTC pou??vate? Didier Spaier
> >>>> <didier slint fr>
> >>>> >>> nap?sal:
> >>>> >>>> Correction: instead of the last line, please read:
> >>>> >>>> hardware audio device, alsa drivers, alsa app.
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> On 02/05/2019 13:51, Didier Spaier wrote:
> >>>> >>>>> So, in case of a "real" alsa app, the chain is rather:
> >>>> >>>>> hardware audio device, alsa app.
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> --?
> >>>> >>> Odoslan? z m?jho Android zariadenia prostredn?ctvom K-9 Mail. Pros?m,
> >>>> >>> ospravedl?te moju stru?nos?.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> _______________________________________________
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> >>>> >> orca-list gnome org
> >>>> >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
> >>>> >> Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
> >>>> >> Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
> >>>> >> GNOME Universal Access guide:
> >>>> >> https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
> >>>> >> Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>
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> >>>
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> >>
> >

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