Re: [orca-list] orca command-line configuration question, some success!

[Willem van der Walt <wvdwalt csir co za>]

Hi Jude,
Thanks for the suggestion.
It unfortunately does not work.
When pressing alt-f1, it says:
"window"
When I then press 8 on the numpad, it says:
"image activities Fri 10 10 image image image image image"
Pressing f10 does nothing that I can detect.
When pressing alt-f2, I usually can type a command.
> From there I tried running mate-menu and was rewarded with silence.
The same went for mate-terminal.
When running, I think, gnome-shell, I got a terminal prompt.
I am not sure as I also tried running gnome-terminal, but had no immediate 
reaction.
in ~/.config/autostart, I have,m apart from the orca autostart file, only 
ubuntu-mate-welcome.desktop.
Mostly, I need the gui to run firefox, and I will be able to do that now, 
but I would prefer to fix up the thing properly.
Any ideas?
Regards, Willem

n Thu, 2 May 2019, Jude DaShiell wrote:

> Maybe try hitting f10 and see if a bunch of menus come up.  Alternately
> control-alt-tab gets you into top bar, then left and right arrow then
> down arrow into desired menu if it's on the bar.
>
> On Thu, 2 May 2019, Willem van der Walt wrote:
>
> > Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 10:53:48
> > From: Willem van der Walt <wvdwalt csir co za>
> > Cc: orca-list gnome org
> > Subject: Re: [orca-list] orca command-line configuration question,
> >     some success!
> >
> > Hi Didier,
> > Thanks.
> > From what you say, there must still be something wrong with my mate
> > installation.
> > In the old Orca/gnome setup I had before, alt-f1 did bring up a menu, but 
> > now,
> > I just get something like "window" spoken.
> > I am not at the machine now, so cannot verify exactly.
> > Thanks for the pointers.
> > Regards, Willem
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 2 May 2019, Didier Spaier wrote:
> >
> > > [The e-mail server of the sender could not be verified (SPF Record)]
> > >
> > > Hello Peter,
> > >
> > > for orca, a good way to learn is to use he integrated learning mode.
> > >
> > > Just press Orca+h and you will be guided.
> > >
> > > In Mate, Alt+F1 should raise the menu, from which you can navigate using 
> > the
> > > arrow keys.
> > >
> > > Other than that, it's hard  to guide you as the key bindings for Mate 
> > depend
> > > on the way it is configured.
> > >
> > > But you can know what they are (and change them) pressing Alt+F2 then
> > > typing: mate-keybinding-properties, confirming with Enter and using the
> > > arrow keys to navigate in the properties' menu.
> > >
> > > You can also type the commands in mate-terminal, that you can raise 
> > pressing
> > > Alt+F2 then typing mate-terminal, or from the menu.
> > >
> > > Also, most Mate graphical components have an associated help, if yelp is
> > > installed: then you will find the Help button pressing Tab several times.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps,
> > >
> > > Didier
> > >
> > > On 02/05/2019 15:05, Willem van der Walt wrote:
> > >> Hi everyone,
> > >> I now seem to have orca coming up each time I run startx from the user I
> > >> created for experimentation.
> > >> Although somewhat by accident, I do not have a gui login coming up at 
> > boot,
> > >> which is actually what I prefer.
> > >> So I believe I have mate installed as the desktop for this gui user of
> > >> mine.? It does not say a lot, but I once succeeded to get to a place 
> > where
> > >> I could type a command by pressing alt-f2.
> > >> I tried firefox and could get to a web site.
> > >> As you can gather, I think since the very old versions of Orca/desktops 
> > I
> > >> used, things have changed a lot.
> > >>
> > >> I do not have to use mate, but since that is what I seem to have going 
> > now,
> > >> I need some tutorial spesific to orca use with mate, since I do not know
> > >> either of the two.
> > >>
> > >> I had a look at the orca manual, but what I saw looks like it assumes 
> > that
> > >> one knows how to operate the desktop and goes into things like 
> > navigating
> > >> documents etc.
> > >>
> > >> Any pointers, even just to the relevant section of the orca manual, 
> > would
> > >> be welcome.
> > >> Kind regards, Willem
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, 2 May 2019, Peter V?gner wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hello,
> > >>>
> > >>> Sorry for adding more confusion.
> > >>> So on slint no pulseaudio is ever used until some one directly or
> > >>> indirectly inwokes it.
> > >>>
> > >>> And alsa is used by default all the time except of the case when pulse
> > >>> audio is started. If pulseaudio is started then its alsa emulation is 
> > used
> > >>> not to break alsa dependant apps in such a way that they can play sound
> > >>> simultaneously.
> > >>>
> > >>> This sounds awesome and theoretically speaking might help hardcore alsa
> > >>> users like Janina to live a bit better in the situations where 
> > pulseaudio
> > >>> is difficult to avoid entirely.
> > >>>
> > >>> Greetings
> > >>>
> > >>> Peter
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> D?a May 2, 2019 12:09:23 PM UTC pou??vate? Didier Spaier 
> > <didier slint fr>
> > >>> nap?sal:
> > >>>> Correction: instead of the last line, please read:
> > >>>> hardware audio device, alsa drivers, alsa app.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 02/05/2019 13:51, Didier Spaier wrote:
> > >>>>> So, in case of a "real" alsa app, the chain is rather:
> > >>>>> hardware audio device, alsa app.
> > >>>
> > >>> --?
> > >>> Odoslan? z m?jho Android zariadenia prostredn?ctvom K-9 Mail. Pros?m,
> > >>> ospravedl?te moju stru?nos?.
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
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> > >> Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
> > >> Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
> > >> GNOME Universal Access guide:
> > >> https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
> > >> Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
> > >>
> > >
>
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