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Re: [orca-list] orca command-line configuration question, some success!

If this is mate, try hitting f4 once then try alt-f2 followed by
screen-reader --replace.  In mate if I have this right, the f4 key is
the accessibility toggle switch.

On Fri, 3 May 2019, Willem van der Walt wrote:


Date: Fri, 3 May 2019 04:31:50
From: Willem van der Walt <wvdwalt csir co za>
To: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel panix com>
Cc: orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] orca command-line configuration question,
    some success!

Hi Jude,
Thanks for the suggestion.
It unfortunately does not work.
When pressing alt-f1, it says:
"window"
When I then press 8 on the numpad, it says:
"image activities Fri 10 10 image image image image image"
Pressing f10 does nothing that I can detect.
When pressing alt-f2, I usually can type a command.
From there I tried running mate-menu and was rewarded with silence.
The same went for mate-terminal.
When running, I think, gnome-shell, I got a terminal prompt.
I am not sure as I also tried running gnome-terminal, but had no immediate
reaction.
in ~/.config/autostart, I have,m apart from the orca autostart file, only
ubuntu-mate-welcome.desktop.
Mostly, I need the gui to run firefox, and I will be able to do that now, but
I would prefer to fix up the thing properly.
Any ideas?
Regards, Willem

n Thu, 2 May 2019, Jude DaShiell wrote:


Maybe try hitting f10 and see if a bunch of menus come up.  Alternately
control-alt-tab gets you into top bar, then left and right arrow then
down arrow into desired menu if it's on the bar.

On Thu, 2 May 2019, Willem van der Walt wrote:


Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 10:53:48
From: Willem van der Walt <wvdwalt csir co za>
Cc: orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] orca command-line configuration question,
    some success!

Hi Didier,
Thanks.
From what you say, there must still be something wrong with my mate
installation.
In the old Orca/gnome setup I had before, alt-f1 did bring up a menu, but
now,
I just get something like "window" spoken.
I am not at the machine now, so cannot verify exactly.
Thanks for the pointers.
Regards, Willem


On Thu, 2 May 2019, Didier Spaier wrote:


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Hello Peter,

for orca, a good way to learn is to use he integrated learning mode.

Just press Orca+h and you will be guided.

In Mate, Alt+F1 should raise the menu, from which you can navigate using

the

arrow keys.

Other than that, it's hard  to guide you as the key bindings for Mate

depend

on the way it is configured.

But you can know what they are (and change them) pressing Alt+F2 then
typing: mate-keybinding-properties, confirming with Enter and using the
arrow keys to navigate in the properties' menu.

You can also type the commands in mate-terminal, that you can raise

pressing

Alt+F2 then typing mate-terminal, or from the menu.

Also, most Mate graphical components have an associated help, if yelp is
installed: then you will find the Help button pressing Tab several times.

Hope this helps,

Didier

On 02/05/2019 15:05, Willem van der Walt wrote:

Hi everyone,
I now seem to have orca coming up each time I run startx from the user I
created for experimentation.
Although somewhat by accident, I do not have a gui login coming up at

boot,

which is actually what I prefer.
So I believe I have mate installed as the desktop for this gui user of
mine.? It does not say a lot, but I once succeeded to get to a place

where

I could type a command by pressing alt-f2.
I tried firefox and could get to a web site.
As you can gather, I think since the very old versions of Orca/desktops

I

used, things have changed a lot.

I do not have to use mate, but since that is what I seem to have going

now,

I need some tutorial spesific to orca use with mate, since I do not know
either of the two.

I had a look at the orca manual, but what I saw looks like it assumes

that

one knows how to operate the desktop and goes into things like

navigating

documents etc.

Any pointers, even just to the relevant section of the orca manual,

would

be welcome.
Kind regards, Willem


On Thu, 2 May 2019, Peter V?gner wrote:


Hello,

Sorry for adding more confusion.
So on slint no pulseaudio is ever used until some one directly or
indirectly inwokes it.

And alsa is used by default all the time except of the case when pulse
audio is started. If pulseaudio is started then its alsa emulation is

used

not to break alsa dependant apps in such a way that they can play sound
simultaneously.

This sounds awesome and theoretically speaking might help hardcore alsa
users like Janina to live a bit better in the situations where

pulseaudio

is difficult to avoid entirely.

Greetings

Peter


D?a May 2, 2019 12:09:23 PM UTC pou??vate? Didier Spaier

<didier slint fr>

nap?sal:

Correction: instead of the last line, please read:
hardware audio device, alsa drivers, alsa app.

On 02/05/2019 13:51, Didier Spaier wrote:

So, in case of a "real" alsa app, the chain is rather:
hardware audio device, alsa app.


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