Re: [orca-list] orca command-line configuration question, some success!



Hi Didier,
Thanks.
From what you say, there must still be something wrong with my mate
installation.
In the old Orca/gnome setup I had before, alt-f1 did bring up a menu, but now, I just get something like "window" spoken.
I am not at the machine now, so cannot verify exactly.
Thanks for the pointers.
Regards, Willem


On Thu, 2 May 2019, Didier Spaier wrote:

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Hello Peter,

for orca, a good way to learn is to use he integrated learning mode.

Just press Orca+h and you will be guided.

In Mate, Alt+F1 should raise the menu, from which you can navigate using the arrow keys.

Other than that, it's hard  to guide you as the key bindings for Mate depend on the way it is configured.

But you can know what they are (and change them) pressing Alt+F2 then typing: mate-keybinding-properties, 
confirming with Enter and using the arrow keys to navigate in the properties' menu.

You can also type the commands in mate-terminal, that you can raise pressing Alt+F2 then typing 
mate-terminal, or from the menu.

Also, most Mate graphical components have an associated help, if yelp is installed: then you will find the 
Help button pressing Tab several times.

Hope this helps,

Didier

On 02/05/2019 15:05, Willem van der Walt wrote:
Hi everyone,
I now seem to have orca coming up each time I run startx from the user I created for experimentation.
Although somewhat by accident, I do not have a gui login coming up at boot, which is actually what I prefer.
So I believe I have mate installed as the desktop for this gui user of mine.  It does not say a lot, but I 
once succeeded to get to a place where I could type a command by pressing alt-f2.
I tried firefox and could get to a web site.
As you can gather, I think since the very old versions of Orca/desktops I used, things have changed a lot.

I do not have to use mate, but since that is what I seem to have going now, I need some tutorial spesific to 
orca use with mate, since I do not know either of the two.

I had a look at the orca manual, but what I saw looks like it assumes that one knows how to operate the 
desktop and goes into things like navigating documents etc.

Any pointers, even just to the relevant section of the orca manual, would be welcome.
Kind regards, Willem


On Thu, 2 May 2019, Peter Vágner wrote:

Hello,

Sorry for adding more confusion.
So on slint no pulseaudio is ever used until some one directly or indirectly inwokes it.

And alsa is used by default all the time except of the case when pulse audio is started. If pulseaudio is 
started then its alsa emulation is used not to break alsa dependant apps in such a way that they can play 
sound simultaneously.

This sounds awesome and theoretically speaking might help hardcore alsa users like Janina to live a bit 
better in the situations where pulseaudio is difficult to avoid entirely.

Greetings

Peter


Dňa May 2, 2019 12:09:23 PM UTC používateľ Didier Spaier <didier slint fr> napísal:
Correction: instead of the last line, please read:
hardware audio device, alsa drivers, alsa app.

On 02/05/2019 13:51, Didier Spaier wrote:
So, in case of a "real" alsa app, the chain is rather:
hardware audio device, alsa app.

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