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Re: [orca-list] Using Emacs under Orca

What I like about Emacspeak is the aural highlighting. That is, changing
speech for different fonts or text structures, and sounds for lines with
errors and such. Speechd-el has to be configured to do all this.
-- 
Devin Prater
r d t prater gmail com

John Covici <covici ccs covici com> writes:


Will speech-el allow to read a long text buffer and stop reading and
have the cursor be at the place where you stopped -- emacspeak does
not allow this and so I have been using speakup for this, but it would
be nice if I could use emacs under a gui environment with orca and
even the mac and have this work properly.

On Fri, 01 Mar 2019 19:49:05 -0500,
Will Estes via orca-list wrote:


I've not done a lot in lisp -- excluding my init file(s) -- but what
I've done has been fine. It's generally easy to tell what is going
on and emacs has a lot of enabling of lisp features as one might
expect.

On Friday, 1 March 2019, 6:44 pm -0600, Nolan Darilek
<nolan thewordnerd info> wrote:


Thanks, this is really great info.


Does Speechd-el read Lisp well? I remember that being something Emacspeak
seemed to do well (I.e. it'd speak things like "2 right parens" when reading
Lisp where many screen readers might speak only one paren.) I think one
thing that has kept me off Lisp for a while is that it's one of the less
accessible languages IMO, and I wondered if I'd like it if it were more
approachable.


On 3/1/19 6:39 PM, Will Estes wrote:

You'll want to use emacs without orca. I use speechd-el because
speechd-el takes the approach of letting emacs be emacs whereas
emacspeak takes the approach of trying to make emacs do specific
things. The difference is that with speechd-el, when you want to
use a new feature of emacs (or one of its associated packages),
things generally just work. Emacspeak supports a number of
things and has its own specific ways of doing and enabling
things. That's great when it has what you want but not so much
when you go outside of that.

These days, there's no reason to look at xemacs.

On Friday, 1 March 2019, 6:29 pm -0600, Christopher Chaltain via
orca-list <orca-list gnome org> wrote:


I'm not sure I understand this statement. XEmacs is an
alternative to Emacs,
but I'm not sure what use case you're referring to where
XEmacs would be the
answer and not Emacs.


BTW, I use Emacs on the desktop with Emacspeak and not
Orca. Of course you
could also run it in a terminal or console with Emacspeak. I
haven't used
Speechd-el, so I can't compare the two. I used to use Emacs
with Emacspeak
for code development, but it's been a while.


On 3/1/19 1:52 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:

xemacs is available as an alternative to emacs for use cases
similar to
yours if my information is correct.

On Fri, 1 Mar 2019, Nolan Darilek wrote:


Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2019 09:40:43
From: Nolan Darilek <nolan thewordnerd info>
To: Orca <orca-list gnome org>
Subject: [orca-list] Using Emacs under Orca

I've been using VSCode under Windows and am getting a bit
spoiled by it. Until
we have Electron app support under Linux, I'm considering
trying to try
getting Emacs working as similarly as I can (I.e. language
server interfaces,
code completion, etc.)


Does anyone have tips for making it work under Orca?
Should I just run it in a
terminal or is there a GUI interface, or should I turn off
Orca and use
Emacspeak/Speechd-el?


If the latter, which should I use? How do Emacspeak and
Speechd-el compare?


And is anyone currently doing this and finding it useful?
I'm currently just
using Gedit for code, but I like the integrated
warnings/code completions that
language servers provide, and I don't know that Gedit
supports this at all.


Thanks.

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