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Re: [orca-list] Left click recurrnt problem

Hi Joanie,

Here is the new debug.out.
https://framabin.org/p/?08e2c248081d60b0#jmt8hlpLueMpRmXbewJ2Hg9aoUc/QHiz9DxjDPfv+08=

(easier to rebuild than finding a sighted person)
In regard with your hypothesis, if it can help: I do not use Wayland but
Xorg, and it worked correctly so far. My laptop has not changed, hence
the screen resolution is the same as it was when it worked.

Waiting for your feedbacks

Regards



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Le 27/06/2019 à 22:30, Joanmarie Diggs a écrit :

Hey Jean-Philippe.

So the debug.out says it's synthesizing a button 1 mouse click at the
coordintations 502, 132. In other words, Orca is trying; not sure why it
is not succeeding.

As I mentioned in a response to Storm, failures can occur if:
* Something is blocking AT-SPI2 from synthesizing the click or moving
  the mouse. Wayland is one thing that can block it, last time I
  checked, anyway.
* If the coordinates for the object are bogus, that could also cause a
  problem. I've seen bogus coordinates occur on on some high-DPI
  laptops when the resolution has been tweaked.

I just added some debugging info to Orca to see if we can sort out which
of the two it might be -- or something else. So mind pulling Orca and
capturing a new debug.out for me?

If that's a pain and you have someone sighted handy, the questions I'd
like answered are:

1. Did the mouse pointer move at all when you pressed KP / to synthesize
   the click? (If it didn't, I'm guessing something is blocking the
   event synthesis.)
2. Did the mouse pointer move in the general direction of the Add button
   (compared to where it was before you pressed KP /)?

I look forward to your debug.out or answers. Thanks!
--joanie

On 6/27/19 12:46 PM, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote:

Hi,

Le 26/06/2019 à 22:52, Joanmarie Diggs a écrit :

Hi Jean-Phillipe.

I wasn't able to reproduce this, and when I go to view your debug.out
(after fixing the URL), I get, "Hosting in maintenance This site is
temporarily unavailable." In the meantime, I have a question for you:


Arf indeed, it was exactly the time they migrated the web home.
http://demo.aaui.eu/debug-2019-06-26-15:03:20.out
should work now


Are you navigating to the button you wish to click on just by line or by
word? I ask because when I flat review by line, I hear "This message
contains an event. Add". But I have to move to "Add" in order for the
click to succeed.


Indeed. I need to go to the line, then go to the Accept button via
browsing per work (or object). But on the object "Accept", left click
here no longer works while the braille routine does.



Related aside: If interactive elements are not keyboard accessible, it
would be good to file bug(s) against the creators of the elements in
question. Keyboard navigability is part of accessibility, and one
shouldn't need a screen reader to activate things if you can't use a
mouse...


You are right. Thunderbird is doing a lot of efforts for accessibility
at this time. So I prefer encouraging them, showing bugs they fix,
especially major and critical regression, before submitting "new" bugs.
Especially to implement al alternative behaviour.

I suspect, besides, Hypra will need to do such things itself or via a
service consulting provider.

Best regards



--joanie

On 6/26/19 9:13 AM, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote:

Hi,

Difficult to know when it started exactly. Several weeks ago anyway.
It is not perfectly so easily reproducible, but it is relatively
frequent in Firefox and Thunderbird.

To have an easy to reproduce use case, I tried in a TB message
containing a calendar invitation:
Log: http://demo.aaui.eudebug-2019-06-26-15:03:20.out

1. In the message body, TB displays a little pop-up "This message
contains an invitation", then 2 buttons to accept or refus it.
2. Not accessible with keyboard, then go on them via the flat review
3. With kp_divided, issue a left click
It just does not enable the button. However, if I click on the button
via a braille routine, it works. Note it had worked before correctly.

I report as it is not the first time and I experience this in various
FF circumstances.

regards



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