Re: [orca-list] Likely bug with Office Writer, was: Re: More on submitting Orca bugs



OK, wait, I'm reading, and re-reading this.


Are you saying that what's occuring is, when I shift down arrow, the second line of text saying item 2 wouldn't get selected, yet, when I select that first line with item one, somehow, It's actually selecting the bullet on line two as well, even though shift down arrow should only select that one line of text from item 1?


If so, then, I think I'm starting to follow, and yeah, Nimer, you'd be right if that's truely the case. This is starting to sound to me more like a Writer bug mostly instead of Orca.


Chris.


On 02/15/2019 11:32 AM, Nimer Jaber wrote:
Agree. Orca is announcing what it should be in this instance now.

Thanks.

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 8:07 AM Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com> wrote:
I would disagree with you. When I do the steps you describe and look on
screen at the highlighted text, when you shift + down arrow, the
following gets selected all at once:

* item1 (but not the bullet before it)
* The bullet that is before item2

Orca's job is to tell you what is happening on the screen. So not saying
the bullet that comes before item2 would be a bug.

On 2/15/19 9:55 AM, Christopher Gilland via orca-list wrote:
> Very very close Joni, but not quite.
>
>
> Now, when I shift+down arrow, I hear:
>
>
> item 1 selected, bullet selected.
>
>
> What I want to hear is just simply: Bullet Item 1 selected. No more no
> less. Then if I shift down arrow again, it would say bullet item 2
> selected. One more time: bullet item 3 selected. I don't wish to be
> hearing the extraneous stuff afterward, like X Y or Z selected, bullet
> selected.
>
>
> That's a little confusing, as symanticly that leads me to think that the
> bullet came after the actual text.
>
>
> Chris.
>
> On 02/15/2019 09:41 AM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
>> It's now fixed in master for me. Please test and let me know. Thanks
>> again!
>> --joanie
>>
>> On 2/15/19 9:32 AM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
>>> Thanks. I can reproduce it. I'll fix it if it's an Orca bug or report it
>>> if it's a LibreOffice bug.
>>>
>>> --joanie
>>> On 2/15/19 9:26 AM, Christopher Gilland via orca-list wrote:
>>>> OK, then, here we go.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Most recent update of Libreoffice Writer.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Orca 3.31.90 Pre
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ubuntu Mate 18.10.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1. Open writer to a blank new document, and type three lines of text
>>>> respectedly: item1, item2, and item3 all on their own line.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2. Select all with CTRL+A.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 3. Go to the formatting toolbar with F6, hit space on the bullets
>>>> button, then enter on one of the bulleted styles, doesn't matter
>>>> which one.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 4. Press CTRL+Home to move to the top of the document, then while at
>>>> the
>>>> beginning of the first line of text, hit shift+down arrow to select the
>>>> first line of text.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Orca is going to report something very strange.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Item 1 selected, item 2 selected.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So, this leads one to think the first two lines of text, in this case
>>>> the first and second bulleted points are being selected, when, in all
>>>> actuality, this definitely isn't the case. All being selected is the
>>>> first line as you'd expect. Orca's just not reporting this correctly.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've been able to produce this weird behavior with bulleted lists on 4
>>>> different systems now, not including my friend who also tried, and was
>>>> able to reproduce.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chris.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 02/15/2019 09:01 AM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
>>>>> Hi Christopher.
>>>>>
>>>>> While anyone can file official bugs, I typically prefer people start
>>>>> here stating the problem because often what you think might be a bug
>>>>> isn't a bug and the user community can help.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> --joanie
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/15/19 4:51 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland via orca-list wrote:
>>>>>> I just tried, on the official Gitlab issues page for Orca to submit a
>>>>>> bug report regarding Libreoffice Writer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem is, I don't seem to see it now anywhere in the opened
>>>>>> tab of
>>>>>> issues. It appears there only still is 19 issues, not 20. So, I'm
>>>>>> baffeled as to what in the world happened.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does Joni first have to approve submissions? I didn't mark the
>>>>>> checkbox
>>>>>> stating it was confidential so, it should be showing up in theory,
>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>> think, shouldn't it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know I can post bug reports here, but I wanted to go the official
>>>>>> hopefully correct way of doing this, by filing them on the gitlabs
>>>>>> website. If I should just post the report here however, then do
>>>>>> let me
>>>>>> know, and I'll do so going forward.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My user name on gitlabs is
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> waxhawlover
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hopefully that'll help yall find my submission... provided it didn't
>>>>>> crap out on me, and indeed took.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did this in Firefox on my Linux machine, and I'm still getting the
>>>>>> hang of web browsing over there, so I might a done something wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris.
>>>>>>
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