Re: [orca-list] Likely bug with Office Writer, was: Re: More on submitting Orca bugs

[Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>]

I would disagree with you. When I do the steps you describe and look on
screen at the highlighted text, when you shift + down arrow, the
following gets selected all at once:

* item1 (but not the bullet before it)
* The bullet that is before item2

Orca's job is to tell you what is happening on the screen. So not saying
the bullet that comes before item2 would be a bug.

On 2/15/19 9:55 AM, Christopher Gilland via orca-list wrote:
> Very very close Joni, but not quite.
>
>
> Now, when I shift+down arrow, I hear:
>
>
> item 1 selected, bullet selected.
>
>
> What I want to hear is just simply: Bullet Item 1 selected. No more no
> less. Then if I shift down arrow again, it would say bullet item 2
> selected. One more time: bullet item 3 selected. I don't wish to be
> hearing the extraneous stuff afterward, like X Y or Z selected, bullet
> selected.
>
>
> That's a little confusing, as symanticly that leads me to think that the
> bullet came after the actual text.
>
>
> Chris.
>
> On 02/15/2019 09:41 AM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > It's now fixed in master for me. Please test and let me know. Thanks
> > again!
> > --joanie
> >
> > On 2/15/19 9:32 AM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > > Thanks. I can reproduce it. I'll fix it if it's an Orca bug or report it
> > > if it's a LibreOffice bug.
> > >
> > > --joanie
> > > On 2/15/19 9:26 AM, Christopher Gilland via orca-list wrote:
> > > > OK, then, here we go.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Most recent update of Libreoffice Writer.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Orca 3.31.90 Pre
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ubuntu Mate 18.10.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 1. Open writer to a blank new document, and type three lines of text
> > > > respectedly: item1, item2, and item3 all on their own line.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2. Select all with CTRL+A.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 3. Go to the formatting toolbar with F6, hit space on the bullets
> > > > button, then enter on one of the bulleted styles, doesn't matter
> > > > which one.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 4. Press CTRL+Home to move to the top of the document, then while at
> > > > the
> > > > beginning of the first line of text, hit shift+down arrow to select the
> > > > first line of text.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Orca is going to report something very strange.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Item 1 selected, item 2 selected.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So, this leads one to think the first two lines of text, in this case
> > > > the first and second bulleted points are being selected, when, in all
> > > > actuality, this definitely isn't the case. All being selected is the
> > > > first line as you'd expect. Orca's just not reporting this correctly.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I've been able to produce this weird behavior with bulleted lists on 4
> > > > different systems now, not including my friend who also tried, and was
> > > > able to reproduce.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Chris.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 02/15/2019 09:01 AM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > > > > Hi Christopher.
> > > > >
> > > > > While anyone can file official bugs, I typically prefer people start
> > > > > here stating the problem because often what you think might be a bug
> > > > > isn't a bug and the user community can help.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > --joanie
> > > > >
> > > > > On 2/15/19 4:51 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland via orca-list wrote:
> > > > > > I just tried, on the official Gitlab issues page for Orca to submit a
> > > > > > bug report regarding Libreoffice Writer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The problem is, I don't seem to see it now anywhere in the opened
> > > > > > tab of
> > > > > > issues. It appears there only still is 19 issues, not 20. So, I'm
> > > > > > baffeled as to what in the world happened.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does Joni first have to approve submissions? I didn't mark the
> > > > > > checkbox
> > > > > > stating it was confidential so, it should be showing up in theory,
> > > > > > I'd
> > > > > > think, shouldn't it?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I know I can post bug reports here, but I wanted to go the official
> > > > > > hopefully correct way of doing this, by filing them on the gitlabs
> > > > > > website. If I should just post the report here however, then do
> > > > > > let me
> > > > > > know, and I'll do so going forward.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My user name on gitlabs is
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > waxhawlover
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hopefully that'll help yall find my submission... provided it didn't
> > > > > > crap out on me, and indeed took.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I did this in Firefox on my Linux machine, and I'm still getting the
> > > > > > hang of web browsing over there, so I might a done something wrong.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Chris.
> > > > > >
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