Re: [orca-list] Regression: Orca says "no focus" on Thunderbird when opening a mail

[Jace Kattalakis <khalfang1366 gmail com>]

While I agree with Joan that we don't need long, vague messages I also 
agree 'no focus' isn't very helpful to a casual user as well. Maybe we 
should come up with another short and to the point message....though I 
got no idea what it is. I did send Joan my debug log for it though but 
not knowing what I'm looking for I didn't spot anything out of the 
ordinary on my Mate 18.04.1 system. Okay this is getting weird now, it 
used to happen on the desktop, which seeems to have been fixed, now it 
happens when opening up the Brisk menu and semingly at random. Either 
way I sent my debug log in to Joain to see if that can help narrow down 
the issue.

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On 07/09/18 17:42, Alex ARNAUD wrote:
> Le 07/09/2018 à 17:36, Keith Barrett a écrit :
> > On 07/09/18 12:22, Alex ARNAUD wrote:
> > > Thanks Joanmarie for the explanation. Indeed, it's an really good
> > > idea to add this sort of message. Maybe another message should be
> > > send to the user. Personally I don't understand it. I propose: "The
> > >  application seems to be not accessible".
> > Oh dear, we do not want long vague messages to listen to, no focus
> > works well as it describes exactly the issue.
>
> I understand your point Keith. I don't think "no focus" is clear because
> if an application isn't accessible it doesn't mean for a regular user 
> the application has not the focus. An inaccessible application could 
> have the focus and the keyboard can move in it but Orca isn't able to 
> report anything to the user.
>
> I myself don't understand the relationship between "no focus" and 
> "application is not accessible".
>
> Best regards,
> Alex.
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