Re: [orca-list] Fwd: collapse/ expanded /expandable state of tree views in QT4/ QT5 applications

[chrys linux-a11y org]

Howdy,

> Anyhoo, I can see state expandable and confirm Orca is not presenting
> it. I still need to debug why.
awsome :) thanks alot!

about the QT issues in dolphin, this needs to be repoted on another  
place. i will do this.

thanks for your help :).

cheers chrys

Zitat von Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>:

> OK, that got things working. Thanks! Mind you, by working I mean it
> eventually shows up in Accerciser and Orca. I am seeing delayed
> responses, including in Accerciser, and a lot of console spew in the
> terminal where I launched Dolphin, including lines like:
>
> qt.accessibility.core: Cannot create accessible child interface for
> object:  PlacesView(0x5597ab8ce650)  index:  12
>
> QSpiApplication::keyEventError  "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply"
> "Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote
> application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy
> blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection
> was broken."
>
> Anyhoo, I can see state expandable and confirm Orca is not presenting
> it. I still need to debug why.
>
> Thanks again!
> --joanie
>
> On 10/17/18 10:27 AM, chrys linux-a11y org wrote:
> > Howdy Joanie,
> >
> > Oh this is quite interesting since in QT5 it should work OOTB.
> >
> > # quote start
> > export QT_ACCESSIBILITY=1 (this is needed for Qt 4, fixed in Qt 5)
> > # quote end
> > source:
> > https://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Accessibility/Screen_Reader_Setup
> >
> >
> > but the debian guys set this:
> >
> > # quote start
> > QT_ACCESSIBILITY=1
> > QT_LINUX_ACCESSIBILITY_ALWAYS_ON=1
> >
> > export QT_ACCESSIBILITY QT_LINUX_ACCESSIBILITY_ALWAYS_ON
> > # quote end
> > source:
> > https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-accessibility/2016-November/003115.html
> >
> > let me know if it works for you, i will pin it down to the KDE wiki then.
> >
> > cheers chrys
> >
> > ----- Weitergeleitete Nachricht von Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>
> > -----
> >   Datum: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 09:52:26 +0200
> >     Von: Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>
> > Betreff: Re: [orca-list] collapse/ expanded /expandable state of tree
> > views in QT4/ QT5 applications
> >      An: chrys <chrys linux-a11y org>
> >      Cc: orca-list <orca-list gnome org>
> >
> > Will take a look. In the meantime, could you please save me the
> > googling: What do I need to enable accessibility support for Qt? When I
> > look in accerciser, I see Dolphin with 0 children.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > --joanie
> >
> > On 10/16/18 9:40 PM, chrys wrote:
> > > Hello Joanie,
> > >
> > >
> > > i currently work on some KDE accessibility. i recognize that orca does
> > > not speak the collapse/ expanded /expandable information for tree views.
> > > I checked with Accerciser, it looks like the information is available.
> > > could you add them to the presentation? that would be very cool :).
> > > thanks!
> > >
> > > reproduce:
> > >
> > > install "dolphin" the file manager of KDE
> > >
> > > open dolphin -> select the tree view
> > >
> > > arrow around up/ down and expand/ collapse items with arrow left / right.
> > >
> > > result:
> > >
> > > dolphin is perfectly accessible but the collapse/ expand information is
> > > missing.
> > >
> > >
> > > other example would be the room list of "mumble". an popular VIOP chat
> > > application.
> > >
> > >
> > > cheers chrys
> > >
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> >
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