Re: [orca-list] text console use

[Janina Sajka <janina rednote net>]

Hi, Fernando:

I suspect you might need to be moe precise. WebRTC covers three separate
streams of communication, audio (voice), video, and text.

Doing text and voice with a cli app should be pretty straight forward.
Doing video is probably not so straight forward and reasonably begs the
question: "Why?" The gui environment provides far more native support
for two-way streaming video, so taking video to the cli requires a
compelling rationale, imo. I don't see one.


BTW: I believe the standard you'd want implemented is this one:

https://www.w3.org/TR/webrtc/


I would further note that, while this W3C spec is for a browser, there's
no reason it can't be a single purpose, cli browser instance. Sometimes
on mobile platforms we now calls such applications apps--but that's
another discussion topic.

Janina

Fernando Botelho writes:
> I looked for someone who could implement WebRTC on the console but could not
> find anybody. I can look for funding again, if someone knows the right
> person.
>
>
> Fernando
>
>
>
> On 10/13/2018 07:08 AM, Didier Spaier wrote:
> > To play Youtube on a Linux console, use mps-youtube.
> >
> > About webRTC: I never heard of it until today. The home page says that Chrome, Firefox, Opera, Android 
> > and IOS are supported and there is also licode:
> > https://github.com/lynckia/licode
> >
> > What we need to integrate it with a text web browser like lynx is developers. Do you volunteer?
> >
> > Of course a graphical environment is easier to grab. But for those who have the patience to learn, a text 
> > UI is usually as good and usually is more feature comlete, when it exists.
> >
> > Stupidly old school? Yes I am, and proud of it.
> >
> > I didn't grew up on Commodore and stuff, because I used a personal personal computer for the first time 
> > in 1978 (yes, 40 years ago) and neither ms-DOS (1980) nor Commodore 64 (1082) existed then.
> >
> > Still I was able to use the computer, which obviously had a proprietary OS, to translate into French its 
> > BASIC interpreter (key words and error messages), all that in 64 Kb of RAM (yes, kilobytes) and not 
> > having the source code at hand.
> >
> > O Tempora! O Mores!
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Didier
> >
> > On 10/13/18 6:56 AM, Jace Kattalakis via orca-list wrote:
> > > You find me a CLI browser that can do webRTC and play Youtube without a graphical environment, and I 
> > > may change my tune but I'd argue a graphical environment is easir to grab for everyone unless you're 
> > > stupidly old school and grew up on Commodore and DOS stuff.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 12/10/18 20:13, Didier Spaier wrote:
> > > > Funnily I would tend to ask the opposite question: why a blind person would need a graphical 
> > > > environment?
> > > >
> > > > I know at least one blind Slint users who never use one.
> > > >
> > > > I believe that most things done in a graphical environment can also be done in a console, often with 
> > > > a better productivity. This stands for blind as well as sighted people.
> > > >
> > > > A few examples: for writing you have a lot of text and code editors like nano, emacs and vim, mutt 
> > > > for emails, lynx and links for web browsing, mplayer to listen to music, vlc to listen to movies, 
> > > > crafty to play chess, games like freeswipe or scribble, the list goes on and on.
> > > >
> > > > Actually the first personal computer I used nearly 40 years ago didn't have a graphical environment, 
> > > > maybe that's why I am used to text mode.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > >
> > > > Didier
> > > >
> > > > On 10/12/18 7:48 PM, Michael Weaver via orca-list wrote:
> > > > > I don't know if this is the right list to ask on as it is not strictly Orca but it is about text 
> > > > > screenreaders but is text console use still necessary. I am not quite clear on this point. The 
> > > > > reason is that you can use the terminals in gnome, Mate or maybe other desktops like mate-terminal 
> > > > > from an alt F2 run prompt which is why I ask about text consoles, your CTRL ALT F1 to F6 which 
> > > > > don't speak with Orca so need a different screenreader.
> > > > >
> > > > > Just curious with projects like Fenrir.
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-- 

Janina Sajka

Linux Foundation Fellow
Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:       http://a11y.org

The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures        http://www.w3.org/wai/apa