Re: [orca-list] Odd question - installed gnome into ubuntu, and, it won't accept my login password

[Jacob Kruger <jacob blindza co za>]

Ok, not so much of an issue now, since have managed to get ubuntu mate 
up and running on desktop PC, and, if possibly related to file system 
issues, then, quite possible it's related to running this instance 
inside a virtual machine - my guess anyway, but, while will archive this 
message, am not going to worry about it too much for now.


stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2018/01/04 19:41, John G Heim wrote:
> Oh, shoot, I just realized many of the users I support had these exact 
> symptoms after I upgraded their machines from ubuntu vivid to xenial. 
> What was happening was that they were authenticating correctly but 
> lightdm was failing to start the X11 session for them. So they were 
> getting thrown back to the login screen and it looked like their 
> password was not being accepted. A good way to diagnose this is to go 
> to a character console and try logging in. That might be difficult in 
> these days when orca and speakup don't play well together because of 
> pulse. But you might try connecting via ssh if that is enabled. Or you 
> can go to a character console and use some app on your phone as your 
> screen reader.
>
> Also, my end-users routinely report this same behaviour when they have 
> run out of disk space. That almost never happens any more which is why 
> I forgot about it. But it looks like it's not taking your password 
> when what is really happening is that your X11 session is failing to 
> start because it can't create files in your home directory for the 
> session.
>
> To fix the problem caused by the upgrade, what I had to do was to 
> delete some X11 session and/or cache files from the user's home 
> directory. Unfortunately, I can't recall the names of the files I had 
> to delete. It was something like .Xsession-cache. I poked around in 
> the home directories hoping to trigger my memory but I don't see them. 
> We're now running zesty and I think the problematic files were deleted 
> by the op sys.
>
> I originally figured out which files to delete by checkying the logs. 
> Even if you're running out of disk space, the reason why lightdm can't 
> start your X session should be in the lightdm logs.
>
>
>
>
> Running out of disk space is definitely one thing that causes this 
> symptom.
>
>
>
> On 01/04/2018 02:21 AM, Rob Whyte wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I believe that if you create a new user it will log in, there is
> > probably something preventing you logging in.
> >
> > Also, if you have run out of disk space this can cause problems 
> > logging in.
> >
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > Rob
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 04/01/18 04:20, Jacob Kruger wrote:
> > > While am still waiting to get hold of a display, to then try sort out
> > > boot-up off a flash drive, which will have ubuntu-mate installer
> > > package on it, I powered up the desktop PC, and, used the following
> > > command, to, in the mean time, get the gnome desktop interface running
> > > on the machine:
> > >
> > > sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop
> > >
> > >
> > > While it did ask me for the password for my account, and then
> > > continued with installation process, prompting me to select display
> > > manager at the end, etc., if I now power up the machine again, then if
> > > I select ubuntu as the session option, it will accept the same
> > > password, but, if I select either gnome default, or gnome classic as
> > > the session option, it will then not accept the same password, for the
> > > same account?
> > >
> > > As in, while the same process worked fine under the virtual instance,
> > > running inside VMWare on my windows laptop, it's a bit strange that
> > > it's behaving so differently on the desktop PC?
> > >
> > > Any thoughts on interim workarounds, or even just reasons why this
> > > could occur?
> > >
> > > Stay well
> > >
> > > Jacob Kruger
> > > Blind Biker
> > > Skype: BlindZA
> > > "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
> > >
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