Hi That’s more than reasonable. I’ll try to condense that long email I use antergos 18.02, which you can get at antergos.com. On boot, orca speaks and works fine, although they use a gnome base and not a mate one. Mate is available as an option in their installer. Once installed, orca will not speak unless as far as I can tell, I get lucky and it decides, more or less randomly, to speak after both it and speech dispatcher are killed. This is with orca and speech dispatcher at their stable versions Orca 3.26, speech dispatcher 0.8.8 I believe. If I can get orca speaking, it will work normally, if a little slowly, for a few sessions. After which it will just randomly not speak when the system is booted. I can’t pin it down If I use Ubuntu mate, these issues don’t happen, so clearly it’s something with newer software, but I can’t pin it down beyond that. Ubuntu mate is using mate 1.12, orca 3.18, and speech dispatcher 0.8.6 I think, although I’m not sure about speech. Orca is pretty firmly at 3.18 though, because when I tried to build orca from git, at-spi and friends were too old and orca wouldn’t build. Antergos is using mate 1.18, and libre office 6.0, with the gtk3 interface, if that helps. I really want to help mate get better, as it’s my preferred desktop. I’d really like to eventually like to have mate sport Mycroft capability, if that’s still actively developed, and either a fork of gnome’s online accounts or compatibility with it, although either hooked to pidgin or libpurple instead of empathy. That’s a little off topic though. The most pressing issue at least in my opinion is atril’s continued inaccessibility. It’s mate’s built in ebook viewer and as far as I know orca still can’t read it, although joanie says this isn’t her bug, it has something to do with atril or webkit, I can’t remember. Thanks Kendell Clark Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Alex ARNAUD Le 09/02/2018 à 05:58, kendell clark a écrit : > Hi > > I’ve gotten a couple of messages but it’s not bad. I’m glad someone is > taking the time to fix up old bugs so you guys don’t have to migrate > everything over to gitlab. It is worth mentioning that the Ubuntu mate > version of mate has some odd behavior that stock mate or mate on other > distros does not. Examples include orca announcing simply “network” > instead of the network you are connected to and it’s signal strength, > and not announcing the menu you add to the panel. I believe they may use > some kind of indicators, which if removed, will fix the problem so it > may not be an orca issue. Still, if possible could the indicators get > accessibility fixes? Mind you Ubuntu is using mate 1.12 by default, so > this could have been fixed in 1.18 although when I upgraded via an > unofficial PPA the bugs were still there. Still, I’m not absolutely > certain these are orca issues, they could be old indicators which didn’t > get updated along with mate. Right now I’m noticing a pretty cignificant > bug in orca from master. In mate, orca starts, and then stops speaking. > If you wait a while, sometimes orca will see the desktop, and then work > normally, but usually requires a restart, or toggle off and on. When > toggled off, there’s a delay, followed by “screen reader off”. Then a > second or two, then “screen reader settings reloaded. Then another > second, followed by “screen reader off”. Then you toggle it back on, > wait about a minute and a half before “desktop desktop desktop frame.” I > reported this off list to joanie but didn’t include a debug log, but I > can if needed. I’m having issues with Linux at the moment. When I > install antergos from it’s 18.02 image, orca speaks and works fine on > the live image, however when installed it refuses to speak. I cannot > make it do so unless I happen to get lucky, after which it will speak > for a few sessions then stop speaking. If speech-dispatcher crashes or > is killed, it will not restart and the system must be restarted for orca > to work, so I’m in windows only until I can figure something out. If I > manage to blindly upgrade to orca from master and speech-dispatcher from > git, I get lucky a little more often, but still, it’s hit or miss. It > makes no sense, since orca works fine on the image, which is new and up > to date, at least of February second, when it was made. Hello kendell, I'm happy to know you're interesting to contribute to Mate again. Maybe if you encounter issue with Mate, you could open separate thread for each bugs. It's really difficult for me to read and understand long paragraph like the above, could it be possible to provide simple mail like this: > Hello all, > > Environment: > - Debian Sid > - Orca master > - LibreOffice 5.4.3.2 (GTK3) > > Steps to reproduce: > 1) Open LibreOffice Writer > 2) Press F5 to open the navigator > 3) Press down arrow > > Result: Orca announces the context "navigator frame, navigator panel" > Expected result: Orca should only announce the new selected item "tables" > > Orca only announces the context the first time I press down arrow, the second time it only speaks the current item. Best regards. -- Alex ARNAUD Visual-Impairment Project Manager Hypra - "Humanizing technology" |