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Re: [orca-list] FYI: Cleaning up bugzilla

Hi Kendell, All.
On the seventh of February, released the release of Mate 1.20. Among the innovations is the improvement of accessibility. Details here: 

http://mate-desktop.org/blog/2018-02-07-mate-1-20-released/

09.02.18 14:19, kendell clark пише:

Hi
That’s more than reasonable. I’ll try to condense that long email
I use antergos 18.02, which you can get at antergos.com.
On boot, orca speaks and works fine, although they use a gnome base and not a mate one. Mate is available as 
an option in their installer.
Once installed, orca will not speak unless as far as I can tell, I get lucky and it decides, more or less 
randomly, to speak after both it and speech dispatcher are killed. This is with orca and speech dispatcher at 
their stable versions
Orca 3.26, speech dispatcher 0.8.8 I believe.
If I can get orca speaking, it will work normally, if a little slowly, for a few sessions.
After which it will just randomly not speak when the system is booted. I can’t pin it down
If I use Ubuntu mate, these issues don’t happen, so clearly it’s something with newer software, but I can’t 
pin it down beyond that. Ubuntu mate is using mate 1.12, orca 3.18, and speech dispatcher 0.8.6 I think, 
although I’m not sure about speech. Orca is pretty firmly at 3.18 though, because when I tried to build orca 
from git, at-spi and friends were too old and orca wouldn’t build.
Antergos is using  mate 1.18, and libre office 6.0, with the gtk3 interface, if that helps. I really want to 
help mate get better, as it’s my preferred desktop. I’d really like to eventually like to have mate sport 
Mycroft capability, if that’s still actively developed, and either a fork of gnome’s online accounts or 
compatibility with it, although either hooked to pidgin or libpurple instead of empathy. That’s a  little off 
topic though. The most pressing issue at least in my opinion is atril’s continued inaccessibility. It’s 
mate’s built in ebook viewer and as far as I know orca still can’t read it, although joanie says this isn’t 
her bug, it has something to do with atril or webkit, I can’t remember.
Thanks
Kendell Clark





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Subject: Re: [orca-list] FYI: Cleaning up bugzilla

Le 09/02/2018 à 05:58, kendell clark a écrit :

Hi

I’ve gotten a couple of messages but it’s not bad. I’m glad someone is
taking the time to fix up old bugs so you guys don’t have to migrate
everything over to gitlab. It is worth mentioning that the Ubuntu mate
version of mate has some odd behavior that stock mate or mate on other
distros does not. Examples include orca announcing simply “network”
instead of the network you are connected to and it’s signal strength,
and not announcing the menu you add to the panel. I believe they may use
some kind of indicators, which if removed, will fix the problem so it
may not be an orca issue. Still, if possible could the indicators get
accessibility fixes? Mind you Ubuntu is using mate 1.12 by default, so
this could have been fixed in 1.18 although when I upgraded via an
unofficial PPA the bugs were still there. Still, I’m not absolutely
certain these are orca issues, they could be old indicators which didn’t
get updated along with mate. Right now I’m noticing a pretty cignificant
bug in orca from master. In mate, orca starts, and then stops speaking.
If you wait a while, sometimes orca will see the desktop, and then work
normally, but usually requires a restart, or toggle off and on. When
toggled off, there’s a delay, followed by “screen reader off”. Then a
second or two, then “screen reader settings reloaded. Then another
second, followed by “screen reader off”. Then you toggle it back on,
wait about a minute and a half before “desktop desktop desktop frame.” I
reported this off list to joanie but didn’t include a debug log, but I
can if needed. I’m having issues with Linux at the moment. When I
install antergos from it’s 18.02 image, orca speaks and works fine on
the live image, however when installed it refuses to speak. I cannot
make it do so unless I happen to get lucky, after which it will speak
for a few sessions then stop speaking. If speech-dispatcher crashes or
is killed, it will not restart and the system must be restarted for orca
to work, so I’m in windows only until I can figure something out. If I
manage to blindly upgrade to orca from master and speech-dispatcher from
git, I get lucky a little more often, but still, it’s hit or miss. It
makes no sense, since orca works fine on the image, which is new and up
to date, at least of February second, when it was made.


Hello kendell,

I'm happy to know you're interesting to contribute to Mate again.

Maybe if you encounter issue with Mate, you could open separate thread
for each bugs.

It's really difficult for me to read and understand long paragraph like
the above, could it be possible to provide simple mail like this:

Hello all,

Environment:
- Debian Sid
- Orca master
- LibreOffice 5.4.3.2 (GTK3)

Steps to reproduce:
1) Open LibreOffice Writer
2) Press F5 to open the navigator
3) Press down arrow

Result: Orca announces the context "navigator frame, navigator panel"
Expected result: Orca should only announce the new selected item "tables"

Orca only announces the context the first time I press down arrow, the second time it only speaks the current 
item.


Best regards.



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