Re: [orca-list] Accessible distros

[Janina Sajka <janina rednote net>]

Microsoft.com distributes Windows 10 via freely downloadable ISO images.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/SOFTWARE-DOWNLOAD/windows10ISO

You pay once you connect online after you finish installing it.

Best,

Janina


Orca screen reader developers writes:
> I'm not doing as much with virtual machines now as I used to, but I had
> trouble with VMware Player when I moved to Ubuntu 16.04, so I tried to
> switch to KVM/qemu. It took some getting used to, but it all seems doable to
> me. The biggest problem I had was installing a Windows virtual machine. I
> couldn't get KVM/qemu to boot from a USB stick, and I couldn't get an ISO of
> Windows. After a few days of Googling and research, I just put that project
> on the shelf for a while. It seemed fine for creating various virtual
> machines of anything I could get an ISO for though.
>
>
> On 12/3/18 8:01 AM, Janina Sajka via orca-list wrote:
> > Nick Wood writes:
> > > Linux is far from perfect - and I hate how Fedora can just drop a new kernel
> > > version into the regular software updates which can completely break VMWare
> > > - but overall I am very happy with my setup.
> > I haven't run VMware on a Linux host in 20 years, but this sensitivity
> > to kernel versions was a most frustrating aspect of reliance on VMware then. So, it's disappointing
> > to hear that VMware still depends on particular Linux kernel versions.
> >
> > Not only did VMware require a particular kernel version, but their
> > modules supporting newer kernel versions tended to trail kernel releases
> > by weeks, if not months. So, it was much worse than simply updating the
> > VMware software on a kernel upgrade--you had to watch and wait for a
> > VMware update release--and more money might be required, as VMware is
> > not floss.
> >
> > I am contemplating going back to an environment using virtual machines,
> > but I'm not about to go with VMware again for these reasons.
> >
> > So, since we're on the topic, let me simply ask: Why not KVM/qemu?
> >
> > Or, if one must go commercial, Virtualbox?
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Janina
> >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Nick
> > >
> > > On 02/12/2018 16:49, Christopher Chaltain via orca-list wrote:
> > > > When we ran Linux and Windows at work, this was about 15 years ago, we
> > > > ran Windows at the host operating system and Linux in the virtual
> > > > machine. We found that Windows liked to assume it had exclusive use of
> > > > the hardware so it was more problematic getting it to run in a virtual
> > > > machine. Linux, on the other hand, seemed to run much better and with
> > > > fewer problems in the virtual machine.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Since then, for home use, I've run Linux on the bare metal and Windows
> > > > in a virtual machine, and I found this to be satisfactory. Of course, I
> > > > had to have the hardware resources to support this.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bottom line is that I'd listen to Kyle.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 12/2/18 8:42 AM, Kyle via orca-list wrote:
> > > > > If you must run a VM, I would always recommend running Linux as the
> > > > > host and running your work VM on top of Linux. The Linux host is far
> > > > > more stable, and it's much easier to roll back a VM that goes wonky
> > > > > than it is to have to reinstall your host OS and potentially lose
> > > > > the VM in the process.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regarding which distro to use, I think it's mostly personal
> > > > > preference, as GNOME and MATE desktops are both quite accessible
> > > > > using Orca. That said, I think Fedora Live Workstation is probably
> > > > > your best bet, as you can just press alt_super_s to start Orca as
> > > > > soon as the OS boots up. I no longer have an x86_64 machine to test
> > > > > this, but the last time I did, the installer worked pretty well.
> > > > > ~Kyle
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > orca-list mailing list
> > > > > orca-list gnome org
> > > > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
> > > > > Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
> > > > > Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
> > > > > GNOME Universal Access guide:
> > > > > https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
> > > > > Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > orca-list mailing list
> > > orca-list gnome org
> > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
> > > Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
> > > Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
> > > GNOME Universal Access guide: https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
> > > Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
>
> -- 
> Christopher (CJ)
> Chaltain at Gmail
>
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-- 

Janina Sajka

Linux Foundation Fellow
Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:       http://a11y.org

The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures        http://www.w3.org/wai/apa