Re: [orca-list] Nautilus slowness update #2 (was update #1)

[Peter Vágner <pvagner pvagner tk>]

Hello,


and thank you for your time spent with me and detailed answers.



Dňa 25.04.2018 o 01:34 Joanmarie Diggs napísal(a):
> > - When changing folders rapidly (e.g. by pressing alt+left or alt+right> arrow keys) orca will sometimes 
> > freeze and I need to restart it in
> order> to get it to work again.
>
> This will need to be addressed in Nautilus and Caja. Still on my list.
>
> > - The same is very likelly to happen when using quick search feature
> > e.g. type a few letters of a filename, browse the list of icons and hit
> > esc key to dismiss the search. Sometimes orca will freeze.
> Ditto.
I think this is now fixed in orca master, at least after updating this 
morning orca no longer freezes for me. I haven't rebuilt nautilus yet.

> > - A lot of buttons and radio buttons found when expanding Actions menu
> > is not keyboard accessible at all. Unfortunately using orca
> Really? They all are accessible to me. Which ones in particular?
>
> > functionality to emulate mouse clicks is not working there either.
> Mouse clicks with Orca is working for me. I'm using X and not Wayland.
> Which are you using?
I'm also using X, clarification likelly comes where I'm talking about 
sorting files in nautilus.

> > concrete feature I am missing is ability to sort the list of files.
> That's not physically in the actions menu. But you can sort the list by
> shift tabbing one to move up from the list. The individual column
> headers are not keyboard navigable. Yes they should be. In the meantime,
> flat review and clicking via Orca works for me. Again, at least in X.
This is because I mixed all the nautilus quirks in a single message 
yesterday. When nautilus is switched to list view clicking column header 
does the sorting fine and thanks for the hint as this is the only way on 
how I can use the feature.
However when nautilus is switched into icons view I can do the following:
Make sure nautilus is in focus
Press F10 to expand an actions menu
Orca will announce something like "sort pressed, new folder button"
Pressing down arrow twice makes orca to focus a radio button reported as 
"A-Z radio button not selected"
And by some tryal and error I have observed some inconsistencies with 
this group of radio buttons
    When focusing them and pressing space bar the list of icons 
reorders however I'm not alerted to the fact something has happened, no 
radio button gets ever reported it-self as being selected, the Actions 
bar is not collapsed.
    pressing the enter key activates selected icon in the list. Perhaps 
this is intended, so I won't argue I don't like it because a lot people 
might actually do like this.

> > - While I am at it activating orca's flat review in the nautilus main
> > window is very very slow, it takes a few seconds here. I suspect there
> > is a broken accessible objects hierarchy somewhere.
> Actually, at least in the case of Nautilus, it was an Orca issue. Now
> fixed. In the case of Caja, there is one additional issue which is
> either in Caja or in AT-SPI2. I need to debug further.
This is fixed for me after upgrading orca. Thank you!

> Given that you use Nautilus and I assume from your message are using
> Nautilus master, mind trying the above with it and Orca master and X?
I am using the latest not yet released nautilus 3.28 branch and this is 
now mostly working fine for me except of that clarification related to 
sorting icons view.

> In the meantime, moving on:
>
> > - In the nautilus preferences window there are some unlabeled controls
> > e.g. three comboboxes on the View tab that allow displaying extra
> > details for files in the icons view.
> Confirmed. Needs to be fixed in Nautilus. Will try to get to that tomorrow.

I haven't looked to this my-self yet however if this is just setting 
some label-for or labelled-by properties in an UI file, I might try 
doing that in order to free you of too much nautilus if it might be 
helpfull.

> > - Those extra details are not accessible to orca. Displaying more than
> > the file name and file type is possible in the list view however it
> > looks as if list view display has not received this accessible event
> > cleanup and orca is more likelly to freeze for me when using nautilus in
> > the list view.
> Not looked into yet. Will try to get to that tomorrow.
>
> > - When nautilus is switched to list view buttons for sorting the list
> > are not displayed or at least I can't find them when expanding actions
> > menu.
> As I indicated above, I can't find that in the actions menu either. Only
> in the column headers. Thus not an Orca issue.
>
> > - When nautilus is set to list view activating orca flat review takes
> > even longer and it's very likelly to completelly freeze for me.
> As I indicated above, this is fixed for me in Orca master.
Yes, this is definatelly fixed.

> Please let me know what you find. Thanks!
> --joanie

Thank you once again, that freeze was the most distracting issue. I must 
say I'm happy now.

Greetings

Peter