Hi Peter,
First thanks for your support, it makes me glad.
Then, yes, small recurring donations are possible and interesting.
For legal reasons, Hypra cannot get donations, but our partner,
accelibreinfo, that I created before Hypra and I have the control
on, can get them. This non-profit organization can get donations and
fund Hypra, through tasks where Hypra makes invoices for
Accelibreinfo and, then, funds Alex, Saamuzl and the team of devs
and trainers.
So far we did not any large donations campaign because we thought we
had few changes to have success. And it is a hard process. But
donations are always accepted and will clearly help our purposes in
accessibility development. As I say often, we will have success if
the community supports our efforts. We try to create a win-win model
where service for end-users funds accessibility, but it is so
innovative as it is hard, so we need any help to pass all the steps
of development successfully.
Best regards,
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Le 12/04/2018 à 14:24, Peter Vágner a
écrit :
Hello Jean Philippe,
Well Fernando and perhaps others are interested in
donating to a particular feature.However I'm looking for a way
to become somewhat usefull in this difficult situation. I am not
able to collect huge investments such as several thousands euro.
I am curious if end user small donations might be usefull for
you. Imagine something like Christopher Toth and Tyler Spivey
were able to collect some 10000 dollars from campaign targetted
at end users in order to develop NVDARemoteAccess addon.
While I can't make huge donations I'm still gratefull for what
you are doing because I can now see what Alex managed to
accomplish is more than awesome. There is no other company doing
linux accessibility development except of hypra and igalia as
far as I am aware thus I.d be happy to somehow help increasing
the efforts.
So are small recuring donations supporting your goals acceptable
somewhere or hypra is only looking for more valuable
investments?
Greetings
Peter
Dňa št 12. 4. 2018, 7:55 Jean-Philippe MENGUAL <jpmengual hypra fr>
napísal(a):
>
> Hi,
>
> Samuel has been working on accessibility in free software
for a long, and it is a charm! His role in our struggle for an
accessible free software is critical and major.
>
> Just the work he has been doing since Semtember is due to
the fact Hypra pays for it. Just like Hypra pays Alex to test
and improve accessibility in software (low-vision, but also
Orca).
>
> Also, the fact Hypra pays Samuel il important to know
because it enables us to give him priorities. That is why he
worked on Firefox, because we decided it is a priority.
>
> Working on Caja problem could be one as well. A payent
would make it easier as the bug mathces to some particular
beeds, as few users in ours have big folders, and then this
problem. But it exists, and we would be hammy to priorize it if
we are helped.
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> JEAN-PHILIPPE MENGUAL
> DIRECTEUR TECHNIQUE ET QUALITÉ
> 102, rue des poissonniers, 75018, Paris
> Tel :
+331 84 73 06 61 Mob : +336 76 34 93 37
>
jpmengual hypra fr
>
www.hypra.fr
>
>
> Le 11/04/2018 à 15:57, Fernando Botelho a écrit :
>>
>> Peter, please share what you find with the
rest of us.
>>
>>
>> Also, check if this issue is on his radar screen and if
people donating can vote to give this or something else
priority.
>>
>>
>> Fernando
>>
>>
>>
>> On 04/11/2018 08:18 AM, Peter Vágner wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> If I were able to donate some funds, I would send
all of them towards Samuel who is doing his best in order to
revive some awesome a11y development for linux under hypra's
umbrella. At least this is what I'm seeing on various bug
trackers and email lists including Libreoffice, Mozilla, Mate,
Gnome and all of GTK, speech-dispatcher, brltty and many more.
>>> Without his dedication we would get lost even
sooner.
>>> We need to do something to avoid happening the same
thing what has happened to Luke.
>>> I'm going to see if there is a way to donate either
personally to Samuel or to Hypra.
>>>
>>> Greetings
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>>
>>> Dňa ut 10. 4. 2018, 23:00 kendell clark <coffeekingms gmail com
<mailto:coffeekingms gmail com>> napísal(a):
>>>
>>> hi
>>>
>>> Cannot agree more, this issue needs to be fixed
and stay fixed.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 04/10/2018 02:20 PM, Fernando Botelho wrote:
>>> > This issue has been a problem for quite
some time now. Does anyone
>>> > know how a dev or two could go about
figuring a way to fix this?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Fernando
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 04/09/2018 07:08 AM, Nick Wood wrote:
>>> >> On 09/04/18 10:53, Rob wrote:
>>> >>> Nick Wood <nick microlitesoftware co uk
>>>
<mailto:nick microlitesoftware co uk>> wrote:
>>> >>>> Being able to view a folder in
a file manager that has a large
>>> >>>> number of
>>> >>>> items is about as fundamental
as it gets.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Its not a problem on Windows
with NVDA. Its not a problem on
>>> Mac with
>>> >>>> VoiceOver. Its not even a
problem on Android with Google
>>> TalkBack.
>>> >>>> Its
>>> >>>> only a problem on Linux with
Orca.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> It's fundamental, all right. But
all of those have different
>>> >>> accessibility stacks. So yes, they
are completely different from
>>> >>> each other. Each one handles
things differently at a low
>>> level. So I
>>> >>> don't think it's really fair to
compare tasks between two
>>> operating
>>> >>> systems.
>>> >>
>>> >> Well, whatever the underlying reason,
Windows handles it far better
>>> >> than Linux. That's the perspective of
an end user who just wants to
>>> >> get their work done.
>>> >>
>>> >> I can plug my girlfriend's Android
phone into my Fedora PC and
>>> >> Nautilus will hang whilst trying to
display her folder of photos.
>>> >>
>>> >> I can plug the same phone into Windows
7 (running on less powerful
>>> >> hardware) and it is perfectly snappy.
>>> >>
>>> >> Therefore, with my developer hat on, I
assume that the underlying
>>> >> subsystems and APIs on Windows have
been far better implemented
>>> than
>>> >> the GTK/ATK accessibility stack on
Linux.
>>> >>
>>> >> That is not a criticism of anyone -
particularly those on this
>>> list -
>>> >> it is just a fact of life.
>>> >>
>>> >> Perhaps by comparing Linux and Windows
more often we can
>>> identify the
>>> >> things that Linux is pretty poor at,
and eventually try and put
>>> them
>>> >> right.
>>> >>
>>> >> However you look at it, the
accessibility stack on Linux has some
>>> >> pretty serious performance issues when
dealing with large
>>> quantities
>>> >> of objects.
>>> >>
>>> >> Regards,
>>> >>
>>> >> Nick
>>> >>
_______________________________________________
>>> >> orca-list mailing list
>>> >> orca-list gnome org
<mailto:orca-list gnome org>
>>> >>
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
>>> >> Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
>>> >> Orca documentation:
https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
>>> >> GNOME Universal Access guide:
>>> >>
https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
>>> >> Log bugs and feature requests at
http://bugzilla.gnome.org
>>> >
>>> >
_______________________________________________
>>> > orca-list mailing list
>>> > orca-list gnome org
<mailto:orca-list gnome org>
>>> >
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
>>> > Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
>>> > Orca documentation:
https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
>>> > GNOME Universal Access guide:
>>> >
https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
>>> > Log bugs and feature requests at
http://bugzilla.gnome.org
>>>
>>> --
>>> Open source is much more than just a license.
It is a community of
>>> people exercising our god given rights to use,
study, modify and
>>> share software and ideas. And breaking drm
wherever we find it.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> orca-list mailing list
>>> orca-list gnome org
<mailto:orca-list gnome org>
>>>
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
>>> Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
>>> Orca documentation:
https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
>>> GNOME Universal Access guide:
>>>
https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
>>> Log bugs and feature requests at
http://bugzilla.gnome.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> orca-list mailing list
>>>
orca-list gnome org
>>>
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
>>> Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
>>> Orca documentation:
https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
>>> GNOME Universal Access guide:
https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
>>> Log bugs and feature requests at
http://bugzilla.gnome.org
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> orca-list mailing list
>>
orca-list gnome org
>>
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
>> Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
>> Orca documentation:
https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
>> GNOME Universal Access guide:
https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
>> Log bugs and feature requests at
http://bugzilla.gnome.org
>
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