Re: [orca-list] the sonar project is switching distributions

[kendell clark <coffeekingms gmail com>]

hi

Gotcha. So it's an issue of the antergos website? I'm not going to as 
that orca be able to access or mess with hidden items, there's a good 
reason why it doesn't. I no longer use windows, I'm sending this from 
mellisa's computer. But I can still test on her machine, so what I'll do 
is maximize both browser windows. If NVDA works and orca doesn't, I'll 
contact the antergos people to see if they can maybe update the site to 
... is there an easy way to tell if you're on a mobile device, maybe 
user agents? That way they don't switch to their mobile view unless 
you're on a tablet or phone or what not.

Thanks

Kendell Clark



On 1/20/2017 8:43 AM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> Hey Kendell.
>
> So looking at the Antergos page, I noticed that the "Download" link only
> appears on screen if the browser window is extremely wide or you make
> the text extremely small. When I don't do either of those two things, it
> switches to "mobile" display. In mobile display, there's a not-very
> accessible menu that you can click on, but which doesn't seem to expose
> the action for us to know it's a clickable. And that not
> very-accessible, non-menu, non-clickable is where the row of links
> deemed to "not fit" wind up. Orca does not include hidden items in
> structural navigation because it doesn't know why they are hidden, it
> cannot synthesize clicks on hidden items, it cannot move you to hidden
> items, etc. I'm guessing that NVDA allows you to try. Alternatively,
> maybe your browser window in linux and your browser window in Windows
> are sized in such a way that in Windows the row of links you want fits;
> but in Linux it doesn't. Anyhoo, try maximizing your browser window. And
> if that's not sufficient, try reducing the font size. In Firefox you can
> do that quickly with Ctrl minus/dash (and you can then restore it to
> what it was via Ctrl 0).
>
> HTH.
> --joanie
>
> On 01/19/2017 06:25 PM, kendell clark wrote:
> > hi all
> >
> > This is an announcement that the sonar project, myself, Kyle Brouhard,
> > and Mark Peveto have decided to switch the distribution we're based on,
> > from manjaro to antergos. We will maintain our link to manjaro though,
> > we're not severing everything, but we will be based on antergos from now
> > on.  Jonathan hasn't gotten back with us so we're not sure if we're
> > still going to be called sonar, or if we'll have to change  our name
> > since jonathan founded the project originally and controlls the website.
> > If we do end up changing names, we'll probably end up going with six
> > dots, which is the name of an experimental talking iso image antergos
> > started development on but never completed. I'll make sure to keep you
> > guys posted. This is largely because of manjaro's choice to go with a qt
> > based installer called calamares, which we've repeatedly tried to make
> > accessible and failed. The manjaro guys helpfully kept the older
> > installer around, but it's gotten unusable and they're unwilling and
> > usually unable to fix the bugs, so we have to switch to a distribution
> > that has an accessible installer. I want to personally thank the manjaro
> > guys for all their help, and make absolutely clear that we are not going
> > away from manjaro completely, and I will continue to provide package
> > updates to manjaro. This brings me to an issue I've been having with the
> > antergos website. I'm not at all sure what exactly is wrong with it, but
> > in orca stable, version 3.22.2, I can't seem to access a list of links,
> > or tab around the site to get to the links to download a copy of the
> > image. I had to boot into windows and use the NVDA screen reader to get
> > a copy. Would someone mind looking into this when you have time? This is
> > not critical at all. I'll also test out the new rolls that are added as
> > soon as I get antergos installed. I'll happily provide a debug log if
> > needed.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Kendell Clark