On Sep 14, 2016, at 12:57 PM, Alex Midence <alex midence gmail com>
wrote:
Well, since you use gmail, have you tried using it from Firefox with the
Basic HTML setting on gmail itself? That works really well with Orca,
actually. It’s not a client per se but it’s a way to access your e-mails
form Linux w/o messing with the CLI.
Alex M
From: Victor Lawrence [mailto:victorelawrence gmail com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 2:08 PM
To: Alex Midence
Cc: B. Henry; orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Mail client
Hi, Alex:
I'm using the version of Thunderbird that came with Vinux 5. I wouldn't
mind using Alpine or Mutt, but I want a program that I can use in the
graphical user interface. I'm not a fan of the cli.
When I'm not using web'based email, I've taken to accessing email on my
ipad or my iPhone.
Victor
Sent from my iPad
On Sep 14, 2016, at 11:36 AM, Alex Midence <alex midence gmail com>
wrote:
Hello, victor,
You need to make sure you're using the real Thunderbird. Worst experience
I ever had was with Icedove on Debian since it wasn't getting the latest
and greatest because it's a libre fork. All that got fixed when I
activated the Debian Mint repositories and was able to get the real thing
on my Debian box. I guess this is a convoluted way of entertaining the
possibility of someone encountering the issues you describe and a possible
reason for it. Heard of people having issues with the Thunderbird version
inside of Seamonkey too. I've never had quite that kind of problem
though. You sure you're using the real, full-fledged, honest to goodness
Thunderbird?
Honestly, if you want total and complete accessibility with a Linux mail
client with absolutely no a11y issues ever, ever ever, you can't go wrong
with Alpine or Mutt. There's something of a learning curve but they'll
get the job done and you don't have to worry about a11y issues because
they're text-based. I used to use Alpine back in the 1990's as a kid in
college and it hasn't changed all that much these 20 odd years or so.
Once you have it down, you have it down. I stopped using either one of
them ever since I got spoiled on the GUI and by the fact that I use
Thunderbird on my Windows home laptop too so I don't have to do anything
differently as far as keystrokes, ETC when I switch back and forth between
platforms.
Alex M
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From: orca-list [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On Behalf Of B.
Henry
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 9:21 PM
To: Victor Lawrence; orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Mail client
I've never, ever seen anything like you speak of.
With the exception of a couple of bad releases that were not accessible,
one way back in 3.1 days, I've never seen accessiblity problems as a rule
except for a period when several releases had the issue with msg body not
being in syncd with name in msg list, msg list was read wrong in other
words much of the time.
That has been fixed for over a year now, maybe over two years, and when it
was not fixed in the release version I got a nightlyl build that worked
and just stuck with it. I keep that nightly release around just in case
something breaks again, and with firefox as well I try to keep a copy of
last known good accessible build around till I'm sure the latest release
works correctly with orca, and then swap that for the old backup.
You just are not setting something right I dare say in evolution if you
can't work with gmail.
GMail uses pretty standard configurations, and I can't believe you can't
set evolution to work with it. Last I looked, evolujtion did not have
automatic configuration like thunderbird does, or if it did I missed it,
so one did have to enter some settings manually.
Which Vinux with which thunderbird has not worked for you?
There are no issues I know of with vinux5 and the default thunderbird that
comes with it, and I use it with gmail, yahoo, two news servers, four chat
services, and a google aps gmail instance.
Vinux4 did have a build that had that msg body to msg list sync issue, so
I didn't use it much there. Don't remember if that ever got fixed before I
stopped using vinux4, but seem to remember having installed a nightly
build there before moving to vinux5.
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B.H.
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Victor Lawrence wrote:
Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 06:31:02PM -0400
In my experience, Thunderbird has never worked well with Linux. At
least not Vinux. I can send emails, but my computer locks up whenever
I try to download emails.
I've tried Evolution with Yahoo Mail and it works pretty well.
Unfortunately, it doesn't work with Gmail at all which is my primary
email. I would like an accessible email client with a gui interface
that works with the current version of Vinux.
Victor
On 9/13/16, B. Henry <burt1iband gmail com> wrote:
In the sense that anything that is not growing is diing, then I
guess you have a point.
Right when mozila had a chance to push t-bird to a new level, i.e.
they'd added chat support, they abandoned the project basically.
That feature could have been optimized and improved, but it has not
been enhanced since first included as far as I know. On the other
hand, it kept working when most everything else stopped supporting
facebook chat for a while and or with out a new plugin.
I know of people who never liked t-bird, but have only heard a few
cases of it not working as well as it used to.
It hardly matters.
There should be alternative for folks, and while not true gui aps,
bothmutt and alpine are fine programs with rather different
interfaces that can be run in terminal windows with good results.
Both have been around forever pretty much with in our context, and
are not going to die out any time soon.
Also, some people like the mail programs developed to work with
emasc or VI, very accessible and good for folks who like those
editors, or at least one of them/...lol.
I think most of the folks who use evolution are happy with it as
well, but I've never had athe need or time to try it.
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B.H.
Registerd Linux User 521886
Fernando Botelho wrote:
Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 03:05:03PM -0300
There are some that are lucky enough not to have issues with
Thunderbird, but others, like me, are looking for alternatives.
Thunderbird is clearly a package in decline, regardless of wheather
it is community maintained or not.
Fernando
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