Re: [orca-list] button sub menus, what to call them?

[kendell clark <coffeekingms gmail com>]

hi
I gotcha. You're absolutely right that orca shouldn't automatically give
focus to newly popped up windows. That might be nice for some things but
it can very quickly be annoying if it were to give focus to the wrong
thing. I thought it might've been a firefox bug is why I phrased it that
way, I'm sorry about that. As for 3.22, if you want to commit this
change to it later you can, it's by no means critical. Certainly not
critical enough to interrupt string freeze. I think most users are smart
enolugh to know that a button is a menu if they press space on it and it
pops up a menu, so we don't absolutely have to have a name for it. I'll
also test those pidgin changes asap, as soon as I go through my email.
Thanks
Kendell Clark


Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> Hey Kendell.
>
> We'll go with "menu button" since that seems to be what they are called.
> See, for instance,
> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Tech/XUL/PopupGuide/MenuButtons.
> I have committed this change to master, and master only. 3.21/3.22 is
> already in string freeze and will remain so.
>
> As for giving focus to the alert, Orca doesn't have difficulty; Orca is
> deliberately not taking you out of the focused web page. And Firefox
> doesn't put you in that alert. And I just tried with NVDA and focus
> didn't go to the alert either.
>
> As for your last item, I'm afraid I ran out of time before I got to the
> end of your list. I'll look later.
>
> --joanie
>
> On 09/05/2016 08:44 PM, kendell clark wrote:
> > hi all
> > This is something that recently came to my attention. Steps to
> > reproduce: enter a user name and a password into a login field in either
> > firefox or seamonkey. Press alt+r to get to the alert box that asks if
> > you want to remember the details.
> >
> > There are two controls there, both reported as "remember button". One is
> > the button which remembers the details, the other is a button which pops
> > up a menu with "not now" and "never remember" options. Would it be
> > possible to call these something like "button menu" or "button sub menu"?
> >
> > That way you'd know which control you were on. Also, orca seems to have
> > some difficulty focusing on the alert when it first appears. The easiest
> > way other than pressing alt+r is to press control+l to get to the
> > address bar, then tab a few times to land in it.
> >
> > This could be a firefox issue not an orca one, just thought I'd report
> > it hear. This happens both in seamonkey and firefox. One last issue
> > which I'm only reporting because it's at the top of my head. In firefox,
> > when you're pressing the down arrow to browse through your url history
> > in the address bar, orca reports the titles of pages instead of their
> > full URL. In seamonkey, only the full url is spoken. 
> >
> > I hope I haven't reported this hear before, I can't remember for sure. I
> > know I've seen it before but can't remember if I reported it.
> > I'm guessing this is a seamonkey issue? This is with orca master,
> > completely up to date and sonar linux, also completely up to date.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Kendell Clark
> >
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