Re: [orca-list] orca doesn't announce when an email has attachments in seamonkey

[Max <heavy9922 gmail com>]

Hi, Joanye!

I understood. Thank you very much for the clarifications.

Joanmarie Diggs пишет:
> Hi Max.
>
> It's not a stupid question. Unfortunately, SeaMonkey seems to suffer
> from this bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=370437
>
> Also using flat review as a work around (which works in Thunderbird) is
> failing in SeaMonkey because the thing you need to click on it lacks
> text. This I can work around in Orca. After I add that work around, then
> you should be able to click on the button you need.
>
> Right now I'm working on some WebKit bugs (in WebKit). I'll let you know
> when I've added the flat review hackaround.
>
> --joanie
>
> On 05/13/2016 01:43 PM, Max wrote:
> > Hi, Joanye!
> >
> > I apologize for the stupid question. Please tell me how to activate in
> > "seamonkey" this column? I have myself I can not find anything similar.
> > I use "seamonkey" version 2.40.
> >
> > As for the living areas, I fully agree with you. I simply do not get to
> > take advantage of this functionality to sites like "facebook.com", or
> > "gmail.com". Ie I do not remember that to "orca" I spoke dynamic content
> > on these sites.
> >
> > Joanmarie Diggs пишет:
> > > Hey Max.
> > >
> > > Regarding the attachment announcement, please see my response to
> > > Kendell. Are you sure you have the attachment column enabled?
> > >
> > > Regarding the save the password query, I filed that bug against
> > > SeaMonkey: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1272685
> > >
> > > Lastly, regarding the problem you report with live regions, do you mean
> > > live regions which use proper ARIA live region markup so that Orca knows
> > > it's a live region? Or do you mean pages which lack proper ARIA live
> > > region markup? If you mean the former, then please give me concrete
> > > steps to reproduce. But if you mean the latter, and want Orca to try to
> > > guess if something is a fake live region or not, then I'm afraid that
> > > will need to be fixed by the authors of that site.
> > >
> > > Quite some time ago, Orca did try to heuristically guess when something
> > > was a live region which lacked ARIA. But doing so is *extremely*
> > > problematic because it is *extremely* hard to reliably identify a fake
> > > live region from other changes to content. All those events can look the
> > > same. By removing the heuristic hacks and only supporting proper live
> > > regions, Orca became more performant and less buggy across the board.
> > > For this reason, and given that the ARIA standard is now being much more
> > > widely used by developers, I will not be adding heuristic hacks to work
> > > around poorly-coded interactive sites. Sorry!
> > >
> > > --joanie
> > >
> > > On 05/13/2016 06:16 AM, Max wrote:
> > > > Hi, Kendell!
> > > >
> > > > I acknowledge the existence of this problem. If I am not mistaken, I
> > > > reported about this problem a few months ago. Then the "Orca" used to
> > > > work with "seamonkey", the script of the "thunderbird".
> > > > In any case, I immediately write about the problems, which I have
> > > > already reported. "Orca" does not announce the appearance of the
> > > > notification (eg to save the password query).
> > > > Still, it seems there is a problem with the living regions. In this I am
> > > > not sure; However, I have never failed to take advantage of this
> > > > functionality.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > kendell clark пишет:
> > > > > hi all
> > > > > Subject line says it all
> > > > > In seamonkey's mail component, orca doesn't announce when emails have
> > > > > attachments. I've accidentally deleted emails with attachments and had
> > > > > to have them resent because I didn't know. You can of course go into
> > > > > the
> > > > > menus to tell, but the attachment reminder is still handy. Can anyone
> > > > > else confirm this? This happens in both orca stable and orca master,
> > > > > completely up to date. It shouldn't be distro dependent either,
> > > > > although
> > > > > I'm in sonar.
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Kendell Clark
> > > > >
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