Re: [orca-list] orca doesn't announce when an email has attachments in seamonkey

[Max <heavy9922 gmail com>]

Hi, Joanye!

I apologize for the stupid question. Please tell me how to activate in 
"seamonkey" this column? I have myself I can not find anything similar. 
I use "seamonkey" version 2.40.

As for the living areas, I fully agree with you. I simply do not get to 
take advantage of this functionality to sites like "facebook.com", or 
"gmail.com". Ie I do not remember that to "orca" I spoke dynamic content 
on these sites.

Joanmarie Diggs пишет:
> Hey Max.
>
> Regarding the attachment announcement, please see my response to
> Kendell. Are you sure you have the attachment column enabled?
>
> Regarding the save the password query, I filed that bug against
> SeaMonkey: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1272685
>
> Lastly, regarding the problem you report with live regions, do you mean
> live regions which use proper ARIA live region markup so that Orca knows
> it's a live region? Or do you mean pages which lack proper ARIA live
> region markup? If you mean the former, then please give me concrete
> steps to reproduce. But if you mean the latter, and want Orca to try to
> guess if something is a fake live region or not, then I'm afraid that
> will need to be fixed by the authors of that site.
>
> Quite some time ago, Orca did try to heuristically guess when something
> was a live region which lacked ARIA. But doing so is *extremely*
> problematic because it is *extremely* hard to reliably identify a fake
> live region from other changes to content. All those events can look the
> same. By removing the heuristic hacks and only supporting proper live
> regions, Orca became more performant and less buggy across the board.
> For this reason, and given that the ARIA standard is now being much more
> widely used by developers, I will not be adding heuristic hacks to work
> around poorly-coded interactive sites. Sorry!
>
> --joanie
>
> On 05/13/2016 06:16 AM, Max wrote:
> > Hi, Kendell!
> >
> > I acknowledge the existence of this problem. If I am not mistaken, I
> > reported about this problem a few months ago. Then the "Orca" used to
> > work with "seamonkey", the script of the "thunderbird".
> > In any case, I immediately write about the problems, which I have
> > already reported. "Orca" does not announce the appearance of the
> > notification (eg to save the password query).
> > Still, it seems there is a problem with the living regions. In this I am
> > not sure; However, I have never failed to take advantage of this
> > functionality.
> >
> >
> > kendell clark пишет:
> > > hi all
> > > Subject line says it all
> > > In seamonkey's mail component, orca doesn't announce when emails have
> > > attachments. I've accidentally deleted emails with attachments and had
> > > to have them resent because I didn't know. You can of course go into the
> > > menus to tell, but the attachment reminder is still handy. Can anyone
> > > else confirm this? This happens in both orca stable and orca master,
> > > completely up to date. It shouldn't be distro dependent either, although
> > > I'm in sonar.
> > > Thanks
> > > Kendell Clark
> > >
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