Re: [orca-list] orca doesn't announce when an email has attachments in seamonkey

[Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>]

Hey Max.

Regarding the attachment announcement, please see my response to
Kendell. Are you sure you have the attachment column enabled?

Regarding the save the password query, I filed that bug against
SeaMonkey: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1272685

Lastly, regarding the problem you report with live regions, do you mean
live regions which use proper ARIA live region markup so that Orca knows
it's a live region? Or do you mean pages which lack proper ARIA live
region markup? If you mean the former, then please give me concrete
steps to reproduce. But if you mean the latter, and want Orca to try to
guess if something is a fake live region or not, then I'm afraid that
will need to be fixed by the authors of that site.

Quite some time ago, Orca did try to heuristically guess when something
was a live region which lacked ARIA. But doing so is *extremely*
problematic because it is *extremely* hard to reliably identify a fake
live region from other changes to content. All those events can look the
same. By removing the heuristic hacks and only supporting proper live
regions, Orca became more performant and less buggy across the board.
For this reason, and given that the ARIA standard is now being much more
widely used by developers, I will not be adding heuristic hacks to work
around poorly-coded interactive sites. Sorry!

--joanie

On 05/13/2016 06:16 AM, Max wrote:
> Hi, Kendell!
>
> I acknowledge the existence of this problem. If I am not mistaken, I
> reported about this problem a few months ago. Then the "Orca" used to
> work with "seamonkey", the script of the "thunderbird".
> In any case, I immediately write about the problems, which I have
> already reported. "Orca" does not announce the appearance of the
> notification (eg to save the password query).
> Still, it seems there is a problem with the living regions. In this I am
> not sure; However, I have never failed to take advantage of this
> functionality.
>
>
> kendell clark пишет:
> > hi all
> > Subject line says it all
> > In seamonkey's mail component, orca doesn't announce when emails have
> > attachments. I've accidentally deleted emails with attachments and had
> > to have them resent because I didn't know. You can of course go into the
> > menus to tell, but the attachment reminder is still handy. Can anyone
> > else confirm this? This happens in both orca stable and orca master,
> > completely up to date. It shouldn't be distro dependent either, although
> > I'm in sonar.
> > Thanks
> > Kendell Clark
> >
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