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Re: [orca-list] linux full time

Lots of folks like Unity.  I am not one of them.  Ubuntu  Gnome is not
Unity.  One of the reasons I like it is that, like it or not, Gnome is where
all the action is at for a11y in Linux.  It's what Orca itself is built on.
The fact that it works with Mate, Unity and, I understand, Cinnamon (to a
point) is a lovely plus but Gnome is its primary target.  Hence the name,
Gnome-Orca.  I've tried all the desktops I've named with the exception of
Cinnamon and I always kept coming back to Gnome-shell.  It just seemed to
work better all-around for me.  Mate is nice but, you're stuck with last
decade's interface and no hard drive indexing such as you are probably used
to on anything past Windows XP.  Just hit the super key (left windows on a
windows keyboard), type what you want to launch or a file name you want to
open and hit enter or sort through a list and hit enter.  Just like you
would on any Windows machine running Vista or later.  Mate doesn't do that.
It has a menu interface for launching applications any Windows XP user would
feel instantly at home using and it's nice and stable and quick but a few
things don't work well with it like panels and some of the file manager
functionality.  Not so in Gnome.  It may have a wee learning curve but, once
you get used to it, it works just fine.  My 8-year-old uses it all the time.
I switched him to Mate last week just to see what would happen and he had a
meltdown.  Hated having to scroll through his games when he was used to
typing in the first few letters of the name.  

Thing is, everyone has reasons for why they like what they like.  I'm sure
there's someone out there huffing and puffing as they listen to my e-mail
with their fingers just itching to pound out a rebuttal defending their
favorite desktop to the hilt.  Us Linux fans can be a fractious and
opinionated bunch at times.  Try as many things as you can but I honestly
recommend Gnome as your desktop with Ubuntu as your distro.  Vinux is also
an awesome distro (it's based on Ubuntu) last I knew anyway.  I've never
used Sonar but I've heard good things from people who have.  I use Ubuntu at
home and Debian at work.  Be well.

My 2 cents,
Alex M


-----Original Message-----
From: Darragh Ó Héiligh [mailto:d digitaldarragh com] 
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 12:31 PM
To: Alex Midence
Cc: Mark Peveto; kendell clark; Orca List
Subject: Re: [orca-list] linux full time

Is it though? The desktop environment of unity is nearly unusable from what
I can tell. Unless there are patches or config steps that I'm not aware of? 

Sent from my iPhone


On 6 May 2016, at 18:23, Alex Midence <alex midence gmail com> wrote:

Give Ubuntu Gnome a try.  It's a very nice distro and its fully

accessible.



-----Original Message-----
From: orca-list [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On Behalf Of Mark 
Peveto
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 9:25 AM
To: kendell clark
Cc: Orca List
Subject: Re: [orca-list] linux full time

I'm transitioning slowly.  I've got vinux on one machine that it stays 
on, then I have a test machine that I'm trying other versions on and 
that I try installing different things on to see how well they work 
before i put them on my dedicated machine.  Have a laptop with windows 
10 on it just in case I need it.


On Fri, 6 May 2016, kendell clark wrote:

hi
I did about 5 years ago on august 19, 2011. Are you thinking about 
doing the same? If so, I'd suggest slowly easing into it. Make sure 
all or most of the programs you use on windows exist in linux. If you 
can't find the exact same programs, try to find substitutes that do 
the same things. For example, iTunes doesn't exist on Linux, but 
there is a program called gtkpod which does most of what iTunes can 
do, including copying music over to the iPod/iPhone/iPad, converting 
as needed, backing up the device, restoring the device, etc. I think 
the only thing it can't do is buy songs from apple music or from 
iTunes itself. One big thing I'd suggest doing is to try to get used 
to espeak in windows before switching over, don't just jump over and 
erase your windows partition. One of the worst things you can do is 
switch over to linux and then decide you can't stand espeak. ETI 
eloquence does exist hear, but it can be a little complicated to 
install. There are lots of people on hear and other lists who would 
be happy to help you. If you're looking for a distro that comes up 
speaking when you boot it and has a good selection of software, try 
either

ubuntu mate, vinux or sonar.

Sonar is the linux distribution I develop along with Kyle Brouhard, 
jonathan Nadeau and Ryan Eversole. We are a very friendly community 
hear, so don't be afraid to ask questions and provide feedback. About 
the only thing that we don't take well is complaining. Windows just 
works, this sucks, Linux is hard, etc.

Thanks
Kendell Clark


mattias jonsson wrote:

anyone here using linux full time and giving up windows?

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