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Re: [orca-list] Changes/ finetuning for Progressbar Beeps

If you implemented something like what I just described, I definitely
want that.


I don't know what percentage complete list you mapped, but I'm assuming
you picked pitches on the scale to map those all the way to a unison (or
octave) at 100%.

Am I right?

Sorry I didn't actually try your patch, but I support the notion very
strongly.

Janina

Nolan Darilek writes:

The patch I submitted addressed this directly by pegging the range between
middle C and the octave above, making it fairly easy to know the ranges. I
wish we could have implemented that rather than scolding me for contributing
at the time, because that may address all of these concerns (including mine
as the patch author.)



On 06/29/2016 08:57 AM, Devin Prater wrote:

I could see that working, but that’d be even more input to keep track
of. Panning beeps could be an alternative, for headphone or stereo
speaker owners, and alternate beeping could be fine for mono folks.
Sent from my Mac.

Devin Prater
r d t prater gmail com <mailto:r d t prater gmail com>




On Jun 29, 2016, at 8:46 AM, Fernando Botelho
<Fernando Botelho F123 org <mailto:Fernando Botelho f123 org>>
wrote:

I remember hearing progress beeps on NVDA and also being pretty
lost, as i did not know how high they were supposed to go.

I wish both Orca and NVDA could give just a percentage via espeak,
or if beeping is a must, then alternate between current stage and
final beep.

So if final beep were 400hz., then beep alternating 300hz 400hz,
310hz 400hz, 320hz 400hz, 330hz 400hz, and so forth.

Best,

Fernando


On 06/29/2016 10:36 AM, Devin Prater wrote:

I’d like progress beeps that pan from left to right instead of
using pitch, because most of the time I don’t know exactly how
high the pitch goes.
Sent from my Mac.

Devin Prater
r d t prater gmail com <mailto:r d t prater gmail com>




On Jun 29, 2016, at 8:23 AM, Peter Vágner <pvdeejay gmail com> wrote:

Hello,


I have looked at the issue you have linked to and I am
somewhat shocked that Nolan's patch has been put aside with
somewhat disrespectfull attitude.


To us non musicians or not very sensitive to individual
tones it might appear as something what may not be needed
however I know some people who might really benefit from
having clean predictable like implementation Nolan has
suggested.


Can you Chrys and Joanie get back to that please and reconsider it?


Greetings


Peter




On 29.06.2016 at 11:55chrys87 web de
<mailto:chrys87 web de><mailto:chrys87 web de> wrote:

Hi Joanie, Hi List,
 I did some finetuning on the progressbar beeps caused
by userrequests.
You could find them attached on that ticket:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=758328<https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=758328>
 I made two changes:
1. make the beeps more short.
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=330508<https://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=330508>
 2. Ignore Interval for the beeps. That only make sense
for Output that needs "time to present". People like to
activate both; Beeps for an progess gues, the voice/
braile output for precise information in big intervals.
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=330509<https://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=330509>
 What does others think about that here?
cheers chrys


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