Re: [orca-list] Changes/ finetuning for Progressbar Beeps
- From: Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>
- To: Nolan Darilek <nolan thewordnerd info>
- Cc: orca-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: [orca-list] Changes/ finetuning for Progressbar Beeps
- Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 10:25:55 -0400
Hey Nolan.
As I indicated in my response to Peter, I'm waiting for feedback from
others. If everyone tries your patch and tells me it greatly improves
things, then of course we can have that implemented.
Thanks!
--joanie
On 06/29/2016 10:12 AM, Nolan Darilek wrote:
The patch I submitted addressed this directly by pegging the range
between middle C and the octave above, making it fairly easy to know the
ranges. I wish we could have implemented that rather than scolding me
for contributing at the time, because that may address all of these
concerns (including mine as the patch author.)
On 06/29/2016 08:57 AM, Devin Prater wrote:
I could see that working, but that’d be even more input to keep track
of. Panning beeps could be an alternative, for headphone or stereo
speaker owners, and alternate beeping could be fine for mono folks.
Sent from my Mac.
Devin Prater
r d t prater gmail com <mailto:r d t prater gmail com>
On Jun 29, 2016, at 8:46 AM, Fernando Botelho
<Fernando Botelho F123 org <mailto:Fernando Botelho f123 org>> wrote:
I remember hearing progress beeps on NVDA and also being pretty lost,
as i did not know how high they were supposed to go.
I wish both Orca and NVDA could give just a percentage via espeak, or
if beeping is a must, then alternate between current stage and final
beep.
So if final beep were 400hz., then beep alternating 300hz 400hz,
310hz 400hz, 320hz 400hz, 330hz 400hz, and so forth.
Best,
Fernando
On 06/29/2016 10:36 AM, Devin Prater wrote:
I’d like progress beeps that pan from left to right instead of using
pitch, because most of the time I don’t know exactly how high the
pitch goes.
Sent from my Mac.
Devin Prater
r d t prater gmail com <mailto:r d t prater gmail com>
On Jun 29, 2016, at 8:23 AM, Peter Vágner <pvdeejay gmail com> wrote:
Hello,
I have looked at the issue you have linked to and I am somewhat
shocked that Nolan's patch has been put aside with somewhat
disrespectfull attitude.
To us non musicians or not very sensitive to individual tones it
might appear as something what may not be needed however I know
some people who might really benefit from having clean predictable
like implementation Nolan has suggested.
Can you Chrys and Joanie get back to that please and reconsider it?
Greetings
Peter
On 29.06.2016 at
11:55 <mailto:chrys87 web de>chrys87 web de<<mailto:chrys87 web de>mailto:chrys87 web de>
wrote:
Hi Joanie, Hi List,
I did some finetuning on the progressbar beeps caused by
userrequests.
You could find them attached on that ticket:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=758328<<https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=758328>https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=758328>
I made two changes:
1. make the beeps more short.
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=330508<<https://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=330508>https://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=330508>
2. Ignore Interval for the beeps. That only make sense for Output
that needs "time to present". People like to activate both; Beeps
for an progess gues, the voice/ braile output for precise
information in big intervals.
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=330509<<https://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=330509>https://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=330509>
What does others think about that here?
cheers chrys
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