Re: [orca-list] Firefox notifications, GNOME and Orca

[kendell clark <coffeekingms gmail com>]

hi
I don't know exactly what firefox is doing here, but they don't seem to 
be communicating with at-spi and atk. Actually, I don't think they use 
the native notification systems on linux, which is libnotify, but rather 
using their own, so orca can't see them. I'm not exactly sure how to fix 
this. We'd either need to add custom code to handle them or have firefox 
use libnotify. I don't see that happening quickly, if at all. I do know 
that on mellisa's windows box, they don't show up in the notification 
area either, which probably means they're using their own implementation.
Thanks
Kendell clark


On 01/28/2016 11:53 AM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> Hi Nolan.
>
> I just gave it a try. (I'm using Fedora with GNOME Shell 3.18.x).
> Visually, the notification pops up in the general notification area
> (spatially located beneath the clock in the top bar). However, it does
> not appear to be actually getting added to GNOME Shell's notification list.
>
> So I don't think it's faking out the accessibility API. And I don't know
> why they are not persistent.
>
> HTH.
> --joanie
>
> On 01/28/2016 12:01 PM, Nolan Darilek wrote:
> > Kind of an odd question but I'm hoping for a pointer. I'm playing with
> > implementing Firefox's new push notifications into a web app that needs
> > to generate visible notifications on the desktop. Part of my testing
> > involves clicking on these notifications to trigger behaviors, examining
> > them to see if they're cleared correctly, etc.
> >
> > Currently I'm poking the demo at https://serviceworke.rs/push-simple/.
> > This requires Firefox 44, just released yesterday. If I give Firefox
> > permission to show notifications, then click the button to send one, I
> > do hear GNOME speak the notification after 5 seconds or so. I can't find
> > the notification, though.
> >
> > Specifically, when I ctrl-alt-tab to the topbar, then arrow to the clock
> > and press down-arrow, I can read a bunch of other notifications that
> > were spoken. Unfortunately, I can't find the one Firefox generated,
> > meaning I won't be able to click it or verify that it disappeared as
> > part of testing.
> >
> > Just curious if Firefox's desktop notifications are somehow faking out
> > the accessibility API (I.e. generating an event signifying that they
> > appear, but not appearing in the traditional notification location, but
> > instead some Firefox-specific area that can't yet be tracked.) I suppose
> > there's also the possibility that they're not persistent, but in
> > studying the web notifications API spec I don't see a way to make a
> > notification temporary. There is a TTL parameter for pushes but this
> > seems to govern how long the notification remains on the server, and
> > setting it to some high value doesn't make the notification stick
> > around. There's also a Firefox addon that claims to send web
> > notifications to the GNOME notification area, which leads me to believe
> > that Firefox notifications are currently a separate thing.
> > Unfortunately, if I search for this addon via the Addon Manager then I
> > can't find it while I can on the web, and as I indicated last month, the
> > addon installation alert seems to be inaccessible when installing one
> > from a standard website.
> >
> > Thanks for any help. Just trying to get a sense for what's going on
> > visually, since it doesn't map to what Orca speaks and what I'd expect
> > from said speech.
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