Re: [orca-list] Advice on clicking clickables in Firefox?

[Alonzo cuellar <mariachiac gmail com>]

Hello,
You can also use alt-shift-k and that will bring up a list of all the 
links. Find the one you want and press the activate button.

Alonzo

On 01/08/2016 10:20 AM, Nolan Darilek wrote:
> Switched back to Linux recently after a couple years on Windows and 
> NVDA. Please don't get the impression that this is a Windows/NVDA fan 
> post--I switched back to Linux because Windows itself irritated 
> me--but I'm hitting a few pain points that just aren't going away 
> using Orca after being away for nearly 2 years.
>
> Clicking clickable text in Firefox that isn't a link is one example, 
> and the most painful aspect of it is that I can't come up with a 
> reliable test case. I position the caret on the text to be clicked. I 
> then use the Route Pointer command (which I think by default is 
> something like caps-9 in laptop mode but which I've rebound to 
> caps-backspace) and then simulate 1-2 left-clicks.
>
> And here is where things diverge. Sometimes it works. Sometimes 
> nothing happens. Sometimes, despite the fact that I've pressed the 
> route command, clicking opens the overview panel, takes me to another 
> app or performs another action. I was trying to order food on Grubhub 
> last weekend and spent 15 minutes trying and failing to click menu 
> items before giving up with Linux for that task.
>
> I ultimately had to switch to Firefox running under NVDA in a Windows 
> VM. Under NVDA, pressing enter on a clickable item almost always 
> triggers a click on that item. While the Grubhub ordering process 
> wasn't the most accessible, I didn't experience this routing issue at 
> all when I could simply press enter to simulate a click.
>
> Is there some secret to accomplishing this? Ideally I could complain 
> to every website/app in which this behavior occurs and tell them that 
> clickables should be either links or buttons, but that would be a 
> full-time job, and pragmatic me just wants to get the task done. :)
>
> Also, is there some reason that pressing enter in Firefox can't 
> trigger a click under Orca? That to me seems like the most pragmatic 
> solution. I don't want Orca to be an NVDA clone but when one or the 
> other does something useful, I'd hope that the other might copy the 
> pattern. UX will of course differ between Linux and Windows but 
> conventions can cross over and be incredibly useful. The reason I 
> point this out is that I'd really like to shut down my Windows VM, but 
> as it stands it's running almost constantly so I can switch over and 
> use websites that I can't get working under Orca.
>
> Thanks.
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