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Re: [orca-list] Not a big inconvenience "firefox"

I have a slow Internet connection, so I constantly hear the extra information ... This is very annoying, especially when the "orca" says a very long line of text. Those. for what would understand what I mean - try to work on the Internet, on "GPRS" speed or "GPRS-EDGE". 

24.02.2016 18:14, Nolan Darilek пишет:

I actually prefer the current behavior even if the object is long. If a
page takes a while to load, it is useful to know that focus is once
again on the page so I know what I might be interacting with.


On 02/24/2016 10:03 AM, Max wrote:

Yes, this is what I wanted to say.

The fact is that if the object on which the focus has a short name, it
is not annoying.
However, if the object name is long, it is necessary to press "ctrl"
for what would "orca" stopped talking.


24.02.2016 17:37, Joanmarie Diggs пишет:

Hey Peter, all.

I can reproduce the behavior using the steps you describe. And if that's
indeed what we're talking about, then I agree with Peter's assessment:
Ignoring valid focus events is dangerous. And the focus event is valid:

Taking Peter's steps, when I first Tab to the "Google Search" button, a
focus rectangle is drawn on the button visually indicating it's focused.
Then, when I press Ctrl+L, the focus rectangle is removed from the
"Google Search" button because focus is in the address bar. Having typed
a new URL and pressed enter, the focus rectangle is redrawn on the
"Google Search" button and then page loading begins. And I'm sure this
type of focus claim is not limited to push buttons.

So.... Again, if this is what Max is describing and José can reproduce,
then this is not a bug, nor is it safe to hack around in Orca. If it's
sufficiently annoying, then filing a bug against Firefox would be my
suggestion.

--joanie

On 02/24/2016 10:20 AM, Peter Vágner wrote:

Hello,

Just to repeat what appears to be going on, because guessing from
Joanie's reply below we are not understanding all what Max is trying to
tell us at least that's what I feel.

1) Go to google.com and tab to Search button.
2) While Search button is in focus, press ctrl+l to bring up the
location field.
3) Type in a new address for example gnome.org and hit the enter key.

Notice that orca presents Search button before reporting loading page.

I am afraid suppressing this focused event might introduce more issues
else where for example if I am using firefox search and going back to
page content and / or dissmissing popup menu.

Greetings

Peter

On 24.02.2016 at 15:55 José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote:

This is confirmed.

On 02/24/2016 11:50 AM, Max wrote:

I will try to be expressed more precisely.

For example - I set the focus on the link "downloads".
Then click "ctrel + l", I enter the site address, and click on
"enter". Immediately after pressing the "enter", "orca" pronounces
"downloads".

24.02.2016 16:36, Joanmarie Diggs пишет:

Hey Max.

I want to make sure I understand your report because I cannot
reproduce
it. And Orca should speak the address bar contents (and does for me)
but
not at the point you've stated in your report. More inline.

On 02/24/2016 09:03 AM, Max wrote:


1. Open any website;
2. Set the focus to any location on the site;
3. Press the "ctrl + l", for what would go into the address bar;


Here is the point where Orca should speak the address bar contents
because it should have just become selected as a result of your
pressing
Ctrl+L. Is it correct that Orca is silent here? If so, and you wait
before typing, does Orca speak what's there or does Orca remain
silent?

If it remains silent, please privately email me a debug.out.


4. Type in the address bar, the address of any website, and click
"enter".

After that, "orca" reads part of the site where we were before the
press
"ctrl + l".


Part, but not the full URL? And is this reliably reproducible on all
sites, or just some?


You could in the future to remove this excess informative?


If it is indeed excess, then yes. Again, Orca should speak the
selected
contents of the address bar when you first press Ctrl+L.

--joanie



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