Re: [orca-list] Not a big inconvenience "firefox"

[Max <heavy9922 gmail com>]

Yes, this is what I wanted to say.

The fact is that if the object on which the focus has a short name, it 
is not annoying.
However, if the object name is long, it is necessary to press "ctrl" for 
what would "orca" stopped talking.


24.02.2016 17:37, Joanmarie Diggs пишет:
> Hey Peter, all.
>
> I can reproduce the behavior using the steps you describe. And if that's
> indeed what we're talking about, then I agree with Peter's assessment:
> Ignoring valid focus events is dangerous. And the focus event is valid:
>
> Taking Peter's steps, when I first Tab to the "Google Search" button, a
> focus rectangle is drawn on the button visually indicating it's focused.
> Then, when I press Ctrl+L, the focus rectangle is removed from the
> "Google Search" button because focus is in the address bar. Having typed
> a new URL and pressed enter, the focus rectangle is redrawn on the
> "Google Search" button and then page loading begins. And I'm sure this
> type of focus claim is not limited to push buttons.
>
> So.... Again, if this is what Max is describing and José can reproduce,
> then this is not a bug, nor is it safe to hack around in Orca. If it's
> sufficiently annoying, then filing a bug against Firefox would be my
> suggestion.
>
> --joanie
>
> On 02/24/2016 10:20 AM, Peter Vágner wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Just to repeat what appears to be going on, because guessing from
> > Joanie's reply below we are not understanding all what Max is trying to
> > tell us at least that's what I feel.
> >
> > 1) Go to google.com and tab to Search button.
> > 2) While Search button is in focus, press ctrl+l to bring up the
> > location field.
> > 3) Type in a new address for example gnome.org and hit the enter key.
> >
> > Notice that orca presents Search button before reporting loading page.
> >
> > I am afraid suppressing this focused event might introduce more issues
> > else where for example if I am using firefox search and going back to
> > page content and / or dissmissing popup menu.
> >
> > Greetings
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > On 24.02.2016 at 15:55 José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote:
> > > This is confirmed.
> > >
> > > On 02/24/2016 11:50 AM, Max wrote:
> > > > I will try to be expressed more precisely.
> > > >
> > > > For example - I set the focus on the link "downloads".
> > > > Then click "ctrel + l", I enter the site address, and click on
> > > > "enter". Immediately after pressing the "enter", "orca" pronounces
> > > > "downloads".
> > > >
> > > > 24.02.2016 16:36, Joanmarie Diggs пишет:
> > > > > Hey Max.
> > > > >
> > > > > I want to make sure I understand your report because I cannot reproduce
> > > > > it. And Orca should speak the address bar contents (and does for me)
> > > > > but
> > > > > not at the point you've stated in your report. More inline.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 02/24/2016 09:03 AM, Max wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > 1. Open any website;
> > > > > > 2. Set the focus to any location on the site;
> > > > > > 3. Press the "ctrl + l", for what would go into the address bar;
> > > > >
> > > > > Here is the point where Orca should speak the address bar contents
> > > > > because it should have just become selected as a result of your
> > > > > pressing
> > > > > Ctrl+L. Is it correct that Orca is silent here? If so, and you wait
> > > > > before typing, does Orca speak what's there or does Orca remain silent?
> > > > >
> > > > > If it remains silent, please privately email me a debug.out.
> > > > >
> > > > > > 4. Type in the address bar, the address of any website, and click
> > > > > > "enter".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > After that, "orca" reads part of the site where we were before the
> > > > > > press
> > > > > > "ctrl + l".
> > > > >
> > > > > Part, but not the full URL? And is this reliably reproducible on all
> > > > > sites, or just some?
> > > > >
> > > > > > You could in the future to remove this excess informative?
> > > > >
> > > > > If it is indeed excess, then yes. Again, Orca should speak the selected
> > > > > contents of the address bar when you first press Ctrl+L.
> > > > >
> > > > > --joanie
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