Re: [orca-list] should orca announce aria landmarks by default?

[Janina Sajka <janina rednote net>]

I'm inclined that simply announcing landmarks, especially as a default
setting, is taking far less advantage of them than we might. In other
words I believe landamarks are potentially far more powerful.

Note that landmarks are a pre-defined set of roles judged to be common
on pages. Here's a good page explaining ARIA landmarks:
http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/2013/02/using-wai-aria-landmarks-2013/

The point that landmarks indicate pre-defined regions of a page is, imo,
a clue to the real power of landmarks. Because of that, I think the most
important thing we Orca users might want to know is whether, or not
there are ARIA landmarks in a page when we first load the page. I would
think this could even be effective as a sound notification. Because,
when you know there are ARIA landmarks, you know you can far more
quickly get an overview of what the page offers. And, you can reliably
get past structures you might often prefer to skip--like the nav links.

Another way to put my argument is that having the landmarks read amidst
all other verbose read outs is a waste, because we know in advance what
the landmarks are when they're present. The point of landmarks is to be
able to quickly get to those common structures. Were they already common
on pages, this would be a no brainer, imo. But, even as they're still
only present on a minority of pages, knowing when they're available, up
front, as one of the first things you learn about a page is the way to
really take advantage of them.

My two cents American on ARIA landmarks. Very interested to hear other
opinions.

Janina


kendell clark writes:
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> hi all
> I'm writing to get opinions on whether orca should announce aria
> landmarks by default. Landmarks are usually used to split pages into
> managable sections. For example, bookshare.org uses them extensively.
> This should of course be configurable, in the "web" preferences area.
> This might actually need to be said by default only if verbosity is
> set to verbose, otherwise it will need to be toggled on manually,
> since it can definitely be a little verbose. There's already support
> for landmarks, press m to go to the next one, shift+m to go to the
> previous one, and alt+shift+m to bring up a list of them. Thoughts?
> Thanks
> Kendell clark
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