Howdy, Not trying to gripe or anything, but if we're not talking about improving Orca's new GUI, and we're discussing windows on a very Linux specific list, let's please change the subject to something more appropriate. Sorry, but I am interested in the thread for which this subject was started. I couldn't care less about windows 7, a, blue, or any of its configurations, settings, or screen readers. Thank you Storm On Wed, Sep 02, 2015 at 05:41:02PM -0400, Josh K wrote:
classic shell brings back the menus like you had in windows xp and 7. and its free. if you want those kinds of menus in linux go with ubuntu mate.follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 9/2/2015 5:07 PM, Devin Prater wrote:No. Windows changes way too often. I think I'll go with mate too if it has applications in menues instead of just flinging them all over like win10 does. Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 2, 2015, at 4:04 PM, Josh K <joshknnd1982 gmail com> wrote: you don't like windows10? yes true the start menu can be a bit laggy but i fixed that by installing classic shell. its so much faster than win7! it start up fast like linux does and has done for years. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982On 9/2/2015 5:00 PM, Devin Prater wrote: I wouldn't want eSpeak to sound like Eloquence, and I don't like Windows Ten either. I was just pointing out what Linux doesn't have much of. If old seasoned users of Linux cannot have patience with the new people that would rather test the waters rather than jump in and possibly drown, then indeed, Linux won't attract new users, and therefore won't get much better or gain much more innovation.. Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 2, 2015, at 2:30 PM, kendell clark <coffeekingms gmail com> wrote: hi Well, I tried. I'm done trying to help people who just won't be reasoned with. You want everything windows has, for free. You don't want to have to actually work to improve stuff if it's not as polished as you'd like. You complain instead. I've used windows 10. Several times. I'm not in the least impressed. I've spent four years improving espeak's us english in the hope that the whining would stop. Instead, it's changed from "espeak sucks" to "I want espeak to sound like eloquence" or "I want a commercial human sounding voice because apple and windows have them" Yes, they do. But try reading a book with them. That human sounding voice doesn't suddenly sound so great. I've said my piece, I'm done. Any further messages I see in this thread, I'll delete unless they're from joanie or another linux user I actually know. Any windows users can rant all they like. I've had enough Thanks Kendell clarkOn 09/02/2015 12:13 PM, Devin Prater wrote: For your slight information, I am not a gov blink. Nope, I actually abhore ADRS for how they destroy independence. I ordered the Vario Ultra 20 for $2300. And how, may I ask, is Linux accessibility "far ahead of what we Apple and Windows folk" get? Y'all don't even have a good way of making music, OCR, good TTS engines, and fewer games than the Mac even has. I find that you Linux fans assume a lot. :) Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 2, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Kyle <kyle4jesus gmail com> wrote: Sorry for the upcoming rant, but some of this nonsense I'm seeing drove me to it. I can still build an 8-core x86_64 computer for less money than it currently costs to purchase even the least expensive open source braille displays, which are still costly prototypes. Once braille becomes as affordable as say for instance a computer monitor, then maybe more people will have the means to code for them, and braille won't be just for lucky blind government entitlement babies anymore. Until then, braille is always going to be too expensive to get enough people working on to improve it. Sorry, that's just the way it is. And no, I didn't use braille back in the days when I had access to Windows either, because I'm not a blind government baby who expected all the expensive stuff to be handed to me like I'm entitled to it or something, which is also why I use Linux now and help where I can to raise awareness and to contribute where I can to its development and wider usage by *all* people, not just entitlement blinks. No, Linux isn't "catching up" as you Microsoft and Apple lovers so eloquently put it. It's here, and it's far ahead of anything else you could be using. So get used to it. 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