Re: [orca-list] GUI Redesign or clearup and modernization

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On 9/2/2015 1:35 PM, Devin Prater wrote:
> Thank you. If this can be fixed, I may just decide to give Linux another ride just for the braille tables, 
> which NVDA doesn't even provide access to, and the Mac don't need. i'll probably get a VM going for now, or 
> maybe if Vinux supports Apple hardware, make a partician for a full Linux installation..
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Sep 2, 2015, at 12:22 PM, Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Devin, all.
> >
> > In theory, word wrap is supposed to be handled via liblouis. Liblouis
> > doesn't handle it. Given this discussion, I'll stop what I'm working on
> > and see if I can handle it in Orca.
> >
> > Hope this helps and apologies for the inconvenience your are experiencing.
> > --joanie
> >
> > > On 09/02/2015 01:19 PM, Devin Prater wrote:
> > > I have to say this about braille support though. The inclusion of tables like Esperanto and Latin was amazing 
> > > and made my mouth water. But the braille doesn't word wrap, making reading anything besides little windows 
> > > and controls pretty frustrating.
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > > On Sep 2, 2015, at 11:07 AM, kendell clark <coffeekingms gmail com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > hi
> > > > You sound like a good user to ask. How is the braille support? i'm assuming it's not terrible, else you'd have joined 
> > > > in with the "windows is better" crowd
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Kendell clark
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On 9/2/2015 11:03 AM, Al Sten-Clanton wrote:
> > > > > The rant below is needless and off-target.  My wife and I are not "tntitlement babies," having bought our own 
> > > > > BrailleNote in the old days when I had a decent job and having bought a used PACMate last year because the BrailleNote 
> > > > > finally crashed like an airplane. Recently, we borrowed two Focus 40s from a technology lending program, partly so I 
> > > > > could play with one on my Linux machine and partly to see if it would help my wife with a paying job she's doing for a 
> > > > > small publisher.  If we get lucky, family help might enable up to buy the Braille2Go from National Braille Press, but 
> > > > > it's nothing we claim an entitlement to.
> > > > >
> > > > > In short, we are heavy-duty Braille users.  Sometimes, there's just nothing like it.  We are not simply 
> > > > > guzzling at the government fauct, however.  I'd use Braille a lot more if I could afford a display to use it 
> > > > > on, and would certainly bring attention to problems--and would try to fix those I could.
> > > > >
> > > > > I close by noting that, whatever legitimate frustration there may be with some posts, and I doubt there's 
> > > > > much), I was surprised by the broad swipe of the comments below, especially from one of the most helpful 
> > > > > people I know.
> > > > >
> > > > > Al
> > > > >
> > > > > > On 09/02/2015 11:08 AM, Kyle wrote:
> > > > > > Sorry for the upcoming rant, but some of this nonsense I'm seeing drove
> > > > > > me to it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I can still build an 8-core x86_64 computer for less money than it
> > > > > > currently costs to purchase even the least expensive open source
> > > > > > braille displays, which are still costly prototypes. Once braille
> > > > > > becomes as affordable as say for instance a computer monitor, then
> > > > > > maybe more people will have the means to code for them, and braille
> > > > > > won't be just for lucky blind government entitlement babies anymore.
> > > > > > Until then, braille is always going to be too expensive to get enough
> > > > > > people working on to improve it. Sorry, that's just the way it is. And
> > > > > > no, I didn't use braille back in the days when I had access to Windows
> > > > > > either, because I'm not a blind government baby who expected all the
> > > > > > expensive stuff to be handed to me like I'm entitled to it or
> > > > > > something, which is also why I use Linux now and help where I can to
> > > > > > raise awareness and to contribute where I can to its development and
> > > > > > wider usage by *all* people, not just entitlement blinks. No, Linux
> > > > > > isn't "catching up" as you Microsoft and Apple lovers so eloquently put
> > > > > > it. It's here, and it's far ahead of anything else you could be using.
> > > > > > So get used to it.
> > > > > > Sent from my Cancerian beast
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