Re: [orca-list] sonar 2015.4 has been released

["B. Henry" <burt1iband gmail com>]

This is rather OT, but if I don't post here and now I am likely to forget to address tis on IRC or somewhere 
else.
Talking-Arch is already at the limit of what fits on a CD, and I guess some people can't get the current 
image to burn on to a CD as is. The person(s) 
in question may be doing something wrong as the image appears to be just barely under max size for said 
optical media. I almost never use CDs 
myself/don't have any blank ones lying around and so have not had a chance to chek on what the person or 
persons in question may be doing wrong, but a 
few more megs would almost certainly push the image size past CD limit. 
I am not sure why arch isos have ballooned  as much as they have over the last couple of years, but if I'm 
remembering what I've read TA doesn't have 
anything beyond what is needed for speakup to talk with espeak and some basic braille support that is not on 
the standard arch image. 
I'm not a sonar user, but the reason for a CLI spin would be to make installation easier for the less 
experienced users. I can certainly make the case 
that those users shold not be using arch in the first place unless they have someone around to provide tech 
supppport, e.g. a sys-admin, at least folks 
who are not prepared to learn to swim by being thrown in to relatively deep water...lol
I've probbly already said too much, not trying to start a discussion here that should be handled somewhere 
else. I'll only add that I did dload a 
sonar-cli image once and it did not boot for me after being dd'ed on to a usb stick, so if this is the norm 
then obviously these images are not ready 
for primetime.
Cheers/good luck with the mate spin.
   

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     B.H.
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  kendell clark wrote:
Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 05:53:41AM -0500

> Posting to the orca list for those who aren't on the sonar list. The
> problem I'm referring to is the problem of mate images not booting to
> the desktop when built. I've tried everything I know to do so I need
> phil mooler from manjaro to take a look.
> hi all
> Sonar gnome images have been uploaded to sourceforge. Note that this is
> the 64 bit image only, along with it's sha512 sum and the package list.
> I can upload the 32 bit image on request or I can have kyle upload it.
> I've taken the liberty of not uploading to the testing folder since it
> never got moved out of there last time, so you'll find it on the main
> sonargnulinux page. I am planning to release a mate version, but it will
> be delayed because I still need to have phil look into the problem. He's
>  said he'll do so but he hasn't done it yet. As soon as he has and I've
> verified that it's fixed I'll upload a mate version. This is my main
> priority, but it's slowed down by the need to wait on him to look at it.
> There will no longer be a command line version of sonar, mainly due to
> the fact that I've never been able to get it working satisfactorily, and
> I don't want to compete with talking arch, which already works and is
> based on arch already. I will see if kyle will add some of the packages
> sonar had that talking arch  currently does not come with, including a
> preconfigured irssi config, and some internet and multimedia software,
> though obviously command line based instead of gui based. I'll make sure
> to write back in once I have a solution to the mate issue. After this
> release we will change our release schedule to sync up with manjaro's
> release schedule. Manjaro currently releases a new iso every three
> months. So there will be 2016.03, 2016.06, 2016.09, etc. We can change
> this to simply 16.06 if this would make it easier. I am also going to
> change over to the new qt based installer since our old gtk based one is
> long in the tooth, no longer actively maintained and has some a11y
> issues no one wants to fix since manjaro itself has already switched over.
>
> Thanks
> Kendell clark
>
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