Re: [orca-list] Question about capitalization styles

[Hammer Attila <hammera pickup hu>]

Hi Joanie,

I looked the new capitalization style GUI possibility.
First issue:
1. If in Orca preferences dialog/voice page If choosing the 
capitalization style combo box for example the icon possibility and 
press OK button, everithing is works right. Orca right reload and 
applying all preferences.
But, when I opening again Orca preferences dialog, goto the voice page 
and tabbing the capitalization style combo box, the default selected 
value is the None possibility, not the previous setted icon possibility.
Possible fixing this?

2. If the capitalization style is icon or spell,  now Orca reporting the 
capitalization simbol with non editable labels and not editable widgets too.
My openion this two modes useful only when we editing texts in text 
boxes or on-line forms text-boxes, or whenreading articles in theWeb or 
filling forms, this situation Orca usual have in focus or browse mode.
I don't no other users what modes will be prefer for example check 
boxes, combo boxes, radio buttons, push buttons, etc with GTK and web 
script handled form field elements.
Try following testcase to demonstrate now what happening if the selected 
possibility is icon or spell mode:
1. Set the capitalization style with spell possibility, and reload Orca 
preferences.
2. Goto again Orca preference pane, and press a tab key to land the 
keyboard layout possibility.
3. Listen Orca what will be speak.
If you using english locale, have chance to you two or three time will 
be hearing the cap or capital word.
So, the Orca speech output is following or similar I think when the 
spell possibility the active preference and if you using Espeak speech 
sinth:
"CapitalKeyboard layout panel capital desktop radio button selected"
If checked the speak object mnemonics check box in speech page, the 
example I quoted speech output will be following or similar:
"CapitalKeyboard layout panel capital desktop radio button selected 
capital alt + capital d"
So, I would like hear the icon and spell modes output only with editable 
text widgets, but of course this is only my openion.
With only editable text widgets works good I think the capitalization 
style feature if the selected mode is icon or spell possibility.
I looked Orca what doing for example in Gedit or Thunderbird with 
following text:
My name is Attila Hammer.
If in this letter I go back theprevious line, I hear only before the My, 
Attila and Hammer words the cap word hungarian translated text.
If I doed word navigation the example line, the feature works good too.
So, I think the best practice with icon and spell mode possibility to 
restrict the feature working method with GTK editable text view widgets 
(the read-only textview widgets I don't no need or not this 
possibility), Web script handled editable text view widgets, in 
Thunderbird the editable text view widgets and message body if the focus 
have an existing letter body or a Compose or Reply dialog the message body.
I don't no what we doing if Orca have in browse mode forexample in Firefox.
With normal text reading possible useful this two capitalization style 
modes in browse mode, but need preventing this two modes with normal 
Firefox or Thunderbird menu operations or UI interactions with not 
editable widgets.
So, this is a difficult thing.

Attila