Re: [orca-list] Question about capitalization styles

[Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>]

Hey Fernando.

There's already a way to switch capitalization styles: The unbound
keybinding I added two years ago. That still works with the new GUI
option I just added. What I'm trying to figure out is if there is a
class of objects for which you rarely want capitalization indicated. If
so, what is that class?

My goal is to find the sanest default that we all can agree upon. Make
that default optional/configurable. And keep the existing ability to
switch styles on the fly.

--joanie

On 11/26/2015 06:01 AM, Fernando Botelho wrote:
> Hi Joanie,
>
> My own two cents on this is that I would like very much to have
> capitalization indicated somehow when reviewing by character or word,
> but not while reading editable text. At other times, yes, it would be
> nice to read from beginning to end while hearing capitalization. So in
> other words, it would be nice to be able to switch between the two.
>
> Best,
>
> Fernando
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> On 11/26/2015 08:52 AM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > Hey all.
> >
> > As you may know, I added support for verbalized capitalization styles 2
> > years ago. It was added in the form of an unbound keybinding so that you
> > could cycle it when needed between beeping (aka speech-dispatcher's
> > icon), saying "capital" (aka speech-dispatcher's spell), and none.
> >
> > Because the theory was you would only cycle it on when needed, Orca
> > didn't have to be smart about what you were on in order to decide
> > whether or not to beep/say cap. It just took your orders (icon, spell,
> > none) and handed them off to speech-dispatcher to do its thing.
> >
> > Now I'm adding GUI support because our failure to have a GUI option for
> > this makes us inconsistent with what the cool kids do. <grins> In
> > testing the result, I found it uber annoying to hear verbalized
> > capitalization in non-editable GUI widgets. So I checked what NVDA does.
> > NVDA does not verbalize capitalization in non-editable GUI widgets
> > (yay!). But it seems to me that NVDA doesn't verbalize capitalization --
> > even in Notepad and Firefox -- unless you arrow by character right up to
> > the capital letter. (boo??)
> >
> > To me, what NVDA does is the opposite extreme: If I indicated that I
> > want my screen reader to verbalize capitalization, I don't expect to
> > have to arrow by character to get that verbalization. But I want to know
> > what you think: If you have enabled verbalized punctuation, when should
> > the indication be made? In particular:
> >
> > 1. What types of objects?
> > 2. What type of navigation?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > --joanie
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