Re: [orca-list] WebKitGtk issues (was Re: Please pull and test master)

[Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>]

It sounds like there's a bug. I asked the questions I did to get more
information from you in order to solve it.

On 11/22/2015 09:29 AM, kendell clark wrote:
> hi
> With both enable structural navigation during say all and enable rewind
> and fastforward during say all unchecked, I can arrow up and down
> normally. So now I'm confused. Is there still a bug or do I just need to
> leave this off? I'd really lie to have it on and still be able to use
> thunderbird, but I won't insist on it
> Thanks
> Kendell clark
>
>
> On 11/22/2015 08:02 AM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > Hi Kendell.
> >
> > Does the problem go away if you uncheck those two options? Does the
> > problem always happen?
> >
> > --joanie
> >
> > On 11/22/2015 07:03 AM, kendell clark wrote:
> > > hi
> > > Well, that does fix the problem, except for one thing. I don't have
> > > automatically speak a page when it's loaded checked, but do have enable
> > > rewind and fast forward in say all checked. So I'm now not sure if this
> > > is an orca issue or orca doing what it's supposed to do. I'll send a
> > > debug log to joanie just to be sure
> > > Thanks
> > > Kendell clark
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11/22/2015 05:49 AM, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote:
> > > > Hi kendell,
> > > > Try to press the ctrl key before press up/down arrow.
> > > > I suspect that the problem described is caused because you have checked
> > > > Automatically start speaking a page when it is first loaded and checked
> > > > Enable rewind and fast forward in Say All.
> > > >
> > > > Probably I am wrong, but ...
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > On 11/22/2015 01:03 AM, kendell clark wrote:
> > > > > hi
> > > > > Yup, I did in fact mean thunderbird. It's rather hard to describe. The
> > > > > best I can do is that when arrowing up and down, orca, instead of
> > > > > reading just the line, seems to read the entire text from the previous
> > > > > line up to the beginning of the message. When arrowing down, orca seems
> > > > > to read the content from that line to the end of the message, instead of
> > > > > stopping at the line ending. I'll happily send a debug log, since you
> > > > > said you needed one if it was thunderbird.
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Kendell clark
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 11/21/2015 05:44 PM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Kendell.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Since, as you indicated, what you are talking about has absolutely
> > > > > > nothing to do with what I asked, I've adjusted the subject for you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You say Thunderbird (which is Gecko). But then you talk about yelp
> > > > > > (which is WebKitGtk) and then you mention WebKitGtk and Epiphany. So did
> > > > > > you not mean Thunderbird, but some other mail client which uses
> > > > > > WebKitGtk, like Evolution?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regardless, I do not need a debug log or further reports on the matter
> > > > > > -- unless you really did mean Thunderbird. Because I know there are
> > > > > > serious problems with WebKitGtk content. That is why I'm in the process
> > > > > > of creating an Orca controlled caret for WebKitGtk content. When there
> > > > > > is something for you to test in this area, I'll of course announce it
> > > > > > here. In the meantime, you can avoid those nasty problems by using
> > > > > > Gecko-based applications.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --joanie
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 11/21/2015 09:03 AM, kendell clark wrote:
> > > > > > > hi
> > > > > > > Agreed, this works fine. However, and this is completely unrelated to
> > > > > > > the original message, there are still nasty issues when trying to
> > > > > > > navigate messages in thunderbird, I've tested and this also happens in
> > > > > > > yelp, which made me think it was a webkit gtk problem, except it
> > > > > > > doesn't happen in epiphany. I can capture a debug log if needed.
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > Kendell clark
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 11/21/2015 07:55 AM, Storm Dragon wrote:
> > > > > > > > Howdy, I have been testing this with no problems at all. Thanks
> > > > > > > > Storm On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 01:18:34PM -0500, Joanmarie Diggs
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hey all.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The bad news is that progress bar beeps is not yet committed.
> > > > > > > > > Chrys's patch reminded me that there was some pretty scary and
> > > > > > > > > old progress bar code that I had been meaning to redo. The good
> > > > > > > > > news is that I've just committed that redo which will bring us
> > > > > > > > > closer to having progress bar beeps.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > While I keep on working to get us to that point, it would be
> > > > > > > > > helpful if you could test the existing (speech) support as well
> > > > > > > > > as the braille support I just added (which is disabled by
> > > > > > > > > default). Note that because progress bar updates are now speech,
> > > > > > > > > braille, and soon to be beep, those options live on the general
> > > > > > > > > page -- at least for now.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Lastly, you will find settings, a checkbox, and documentation for
> > > > > > > > > the beep. That is there because it was easier for me to just do
> > > > > > > > > it as part of the other work I was doing and because I anticipate
> > > > > > > > > we'll have beeps soon. But the setting and widget currently do
> > > > > > > > > nothing and they are there on purpose.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --joanie _______________________________________________
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