Re: [orca-list] Survey about screen reader

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Same here, I am using gnome, but I still want a simple way to get the
preferences, so I agree with the comments below.

Storm Dragon <stormdragon2976 gmail com> wrote:

> Howdy,
> I definitely have to +1 this.
> Storm
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 12:18:12PM -0600, B. Henry wrote:
> > I certainly  hope that even with prefferences being handled by gsettings we continue to have an orca prefs 
> > window, independent of graphical desktop
> > control centers. Window managers do not have, and are unliikely to get control centers. I really like the 
> > current orca prefs interface, but even if this
> > is greatly changed to be more consistent with other control center items it needs to be available without 
> > requiring people to enter a possibly
> > non-existent control center.
> >
> >
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> >
> >  kendell clark wrote:
> > Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 12:39:12AM -0600
> >
> > > hi
> > > This sounds like a fantastic idea. Seems like a lot of new windows users
> > > come to linux with an idea of what orca should do, not knowing that orca
> > > is first and foremost a screen reader. All the stuff to enable/disable
> > > it should be done in the desktop environment, whichever one you use. I
> > > think this is largely why joanie, luke, rob and everyone else are trying
> > > to move orca to a gsettings based config, because all the modern
> > > desktops and I believe most of the window managers can understand
> > > gsettings, so it would be simple to add a "universal access" or
> > > "accessibility" menu item to do this kind of thing. Mate and gnome
> > > already have these, and cinnamon is developing one, so once the last
> > > item is in place we can have desktop environment specific settings uiS
> > > while minimizing work. If that makes any sense. Basically we'd have
> > > gnome and mate having their own buttons, check boxes, etc to control
> > > orca, but using orca's gsettings backend. Is that how this is going to
> > > work? Or is orca going to provide it's own config gui and the desktops
> > > hook into it? I'm still a little unclear on that
> > > Thanks
> > > Kendell clark
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11/14/2015 10:18 PM, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Joanie, for this interesting answer. Would you be interested in a
> > > > table on a wiki page to have:
> > > > - Feature;
> > > > - Estimated amount of work (in hours);
> > > > - Orca core (yes/no)
> > > > - Status
> > > >
> > > > It would enable to synchronize our todo list, wouldn't it? If you agree,
> > > > we can do on gnome wiki, or freedom0 wiki, or whatever.
> > > >
> > > > Alternatively, we can use Orca bugzilla, but that is right I am somewhat
> > > > lost with it given the number of bugs. We also can use redmine.hypra.fr
> > > > if you want, that will be filled soon. Of course account creation is
> > > > possible.
> > > >
> > > > Well if you agree, we choose the utility you prefer to work together.
> > > > I'm ready to use bugzilla too if I can have "marks" to understand what
> > > > info are relevant or not. Using Hypra's redmine would be ideal, a wiki
> > > > fine, bugzilla more difficult but I can try.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > >
> > > > Le 15/11/2015 05:07, Joanmarie Diggs a écrit :
> > > > > Hi Jean-Philippe.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'll add triaging all your issues to my to-do list. In the meantime, the
> > > > > current favorite (Button on the panel to disable Orca with the mouse)
> > > > > would not be done in Orca. It's a desktop environment thing. For
> > > > > instance, in the case of gnome-shell, one can already optionally display
> > > > > the accessibility button on the top bar and use the menu associated with
> > > > > that button to enable/disable Orca. MATE (and other desktop
> > > > > environments) could do the same thing if they chose.
> > > > >
> > > > > --joanie
> > > > >
> > > > > On 11/14/2015 07:04 PM, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote:
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks Alex for this feedback.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Joanie, I put also my list here:
> > > > > > http://sprunge.us/HgAh
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Could you have a look and tell me:
> > > > > > - the features related to Orca core, or rather to speech-dispatcher or
> > > > > > apps themselves;
> > > > > > - the amount of work you think needed from your acknowledge of a11y on
> > > > > > GNU/Linux;
> > > > > > - if you have these features on some plans (in bugzilla, etc), that we
> > > > > > should look while working to be sure we don't duplicate work.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks very much for your help.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Le 14/11/2015 23:55, Alex ARNAUD a écrit :
> > > > > > > On 14/11/2015 23:36, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hence this survey:
> > > > > > > > https://framadate.org/spdBz1YDdJqmsqar
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sorry some items may be in French at the tool is on a French portal:
> > > > > > > > - Sondage=survey
> > > > > > > > - Oui=Yes
> > > > > > > > - Non=no
> > > > > > > > - Si nécessaire=if needed/necessary
> > > > > > > > - Nom=Name
> > > > > > > > - Enregistrer=Save
> > > > > > > Thanks a lot for the good idea, the framadate tool is also available
> > > > > > > in english.
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > orca-list mailing list
> > > orca-list gnome org
> > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
> > > Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
> > > Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
> > > GNOME Universal Access guide: https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
> > > Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
> > _______________________________________________
> > orca-list mailing list
> > orca-list gnome org
> > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
> > Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
> > Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
> > GNOME Universal Access guide: https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
> > Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
>
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